What anticeptic?
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Lads and lasses, for the cost of a tube of Germolene/Savlon/alcohol gel/soap and water, put all the seaweed, peeing on cuts et al on the back boiler so to speak for crying out loud. There really is no need to faff about peeing on yourself etc or knocking up some Old Mother Hubbard's Herbal stuff...keep all this 'ye olde knowledge' for the end of world days etc when you can't buy stuff that actually works.
Well said. Since when did an A&E dept pee on wounds and wrap them in moss?
I just use the same stuff as them because it works.
EdS
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Iodine based stuff is now out of favour due to the tissue damage it causes. Certainly most MRT and CR teams no longer use it and E&A take a dim view of people that blather wounds in it - makes their job harder and it often does tissue damage and therefore slows healing.
Guidelines are now flush with water and rise with saline.
Saline tubes are cheap and easy to get - the eye irrigation ones are fine.
Guidelines are now flush with water and rise with saline.
Saline tubes are cheap and easy to get - the eye irrigation ones are fine.
Generally I carry a tube of Germaline (love the smell), some soap and some alcohol hand gel with me in my first-aid kit for minor nicks while out and about.
I do have a few individually wrapped alcohol/chlorhexidine wipes and a couple of steripods for anything that I think would need special attention.
I do have a few individually wrapped alcohol/chlorhexidine wipes and a couple of steripods for anything that I think would need special attention.
The guidleines are exactly that but if you don't have lots of water and saline it's a still a good idea and povi (as opposed to free iodine) doesn't cause significant tissue damage in wounds. They still use gallons of Povidone iodine in every OR in the world. In Vitro tests are not the same as in Vivo and from
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8290466
"Based on these studies, it can be concluded that povidone-iodine preparations do not have a deleterious effect on wound healing."
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I thought iodine-based stuff was not longer used in A&E because a small proportion of people react very badly to it.
Someone on here described how bacteria grow on opened tubes of Savlon. AFAIK, that doesn't happen with the povidone stuff. I've found a dab of it on a cut seems to help healing speed a great deal.
EdS
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
as has been said it is used as a skin santiser rather than a wound disinfectant in hospitals these days. Big difference
I remember reading a great tip on here a while back about flushing wounds. Using a knife or something pointy and making a hole in the lid of a water bottle (disposable) and then squeezing the bottle to flush the wound. The going for the saline or antiseptic stuff.
Luckily i have not had to try this yet but its worth considering given the little saline and aseptic ones are only a very small capacity.
Luckily i have not had to try this yet but its worth considering given the little saline and aseptic ones are only a very small capacity.
Glad you listened
Got modern gas stoves (camping and house), wood burner (camping and house) but give me a break, I'm retired from nursing through illness, a job I went into quite late in life and really loved, much more than the other career choices I made and I have only the safety of the poppet's here at heart when I see them walking down a sticky path to infection and worse; think of me as a nice uncle and not the naughty one who liked to bounce you on his knee
Hi Rik,
Just spent a very uncomfortable lunch having some Silver Aquacel (Ag) removed from an infected wound on my leg. (It's not suppoed to stick and they'd never seen it "weld" itself like that) Bloody painfull, but it's doing it's job of fighting the infection in it's own painfull way. I noticed that the wound specialist had Manuka honey dressings. I asked about them and she agreed that they would be perfect for the wound. (That old time tech). But she doesn't use them as the smell of honey makes her feel sick.
Ah well it's getting better again. Though she's the only person I've met who doesn't like the smell of honey.
Yes old fashioned word for doctor I think I translated to literally.
Google translate says 'Surgeon'. Post edited.
Google translate says 'Surgeon'. Post edited.
we always use Tea Tree oil . very effective even used very successfully after body piercings !After gardening always put a few drops in warm water and wash hands , having washed off heavy dirt first gets in all the little nicks ,
Hi Rik,
Just spent a very uncomfortable lunch having some Silver Aquacel (Ag) removed from an infected wound on my leg. (It's not suppoed to stick and they'd never seen it "weld" itself like that) Bloody painfull, but it's doing it's job of fighting the infection in it's own painfull way. I noticed that the wound specialist had Manuka honey dressings. I asked about them and she agreed that they would be perfect for the wound. (That old time tech). But she doesn't use them as the smell of honey makes her feel sick.
Ah well it's getting better again. Though she's the only person I've met who doesn't like the smell of honey.
Honey/Glucose dressings can be very effective. Here in South Wales we were the first UK hospitals to bring maggot therapy into use too. As to the honey making HER feel sick I'm afraid I'd pursue that one with her line manager.
Interestingly enough I had a fair few scratches from all the brambles that were protecting my local Birch trees, as well as a couple of chapped knuckles. Spent a couple of hours last night melting beeswax and rubbing it into leather and today my hands are in the best condition they've been in since about October. Bees are clever little critters.
Rik, her wound management has turned things around for me, nothing was working 'till she took over. I fact I seemed to know more than some of the others. So I'll let her off with the honey, though I would've been happy to apply it myself.
GB
I enjoyed working in tissue viability, I found it rewarding often a start, middle and (happy) ending through the treatment.
