The Ultimate "What is this Fungi?" thread.
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Thank you very much Geoff. That might be the first time I've got a Russula right.
I'd say "probably" for the russula.
They look like common ink caps, Coprinus atramentaria
Edible but not within at least 48 hours of drinking alcohol.
Edible but not within at least 48 hours of drinking alcohol.
And that is either side, so you can't drink alcohol for 48 hours after eating them either.
Firstly the latin names have all changed. The old genus Coprinus is a fragment of its former self, containing only the shaggy inkcap Coprinus comatus, and a handful of rarities. The family Coprinaceae no longer exists, and Coprinus has been moved to Agaricaceae - it turns out to be a relative of the agaricuses, parasols and puffballs. All of the other members of that genus have been relocated to a different family - Psathyrellaceae - mainly under the two new genera Coprinellus and Coprinopsis.
Secondly, those aren't common inkcaps. They are too small and the wrong colour. They are probably unidentifiable to species from the photo, but I'd guess Coprinellus domesticus - the Firerug Inkcap.
Edibility unknown, but unlikely to be seriously poisonous.
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And that. ladies and gentlemen, is the difference between an expert like Geoff, and a dabbler like me.
Thanks Geoff.
No it isn't. Must have had too much to drink when I posted. I think that's a Psathyrella. Need to pick it up really - Psathyrellas are very brittle and fall apart in your hands.
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No problem, and yes, they were fairly brittle - the one showing the gills came apart rather easily.
Thanks for the interesting replies all. They did fall apart at the least touch. Why the no alchohol rule? some kind of reaction?
Some of the ink caps contain a compound very similar ot that used in alcohol-aversion therapy for severe alcoholics. Basically it reacts with alcohol to produce all the symptoms of a severe, nausea inducing hangover (nausea, vomiting, dizziness etc) without the fun bit beforehand. It persists in the system, hence avoidig alcohol for 48 hours either side of consuming these fungi.
I've seen it happen once, and it wan't nice. Luckily, it wasn't me.
I was talking about the previous picture Harvestman posted. Psathyrellas are very brittle. But so are the inkcaps in your garden, which are now known to be closely related to them.
Regarding common inkcaps and alcohol - they contain a compound which prevents the liver from fully breaking down alcohol. This effect is very similar to certain antibiotics that you shouldn't take with alcohol. Not dangerous, but will make you feel pretty horrible.
Had a little look around for this one and came up with Russula xerampelina, but totally not sure though
I'm not sure either, but without looking at my books I will go with Brown roll-rim, Paxillus involutus. I will be interested to see what geoff says it really is.
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