Said goodbye to my Dad

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Roving Rich

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My Dad was involved in a car accident on the 2nd of January. Despite the speedy arrival of the paramedics, and an air evacuation to Frenchay Hospital he remained in a coma for the next week, until we gave our consent to withdraw the life support.
He died peacefully about 36 hours later holding my hand, with as much dignity as was possible.
Its been a roller coaster few weeks with good news and a rise in spirits and hopes of recovery only to be dashed the next day with negative news.
I am not a fan of hospitals, infact i hate them. So the staff who work there get my full respect and thanks. Its certainly not a job I could do.
It seems head injuries are still a bit of a grey area, and no one is sure how well the brain will recover until the patient comes around.
In my Dads case the injury was to the brain stem, and there was severe bleeding in the brain. Which inturn kills brain cells ?
They are not sure if the head injuries are a result of of the accident or the cause of the accident. Initially they thought he had had an aneurysm (sp?) and collapsed at the wheel. Then after a CT - brain scan found no problem there. But then they couldn't account for all the blood ? There didn't appear to be any external injuries to the head, no broken bones, some bruising from the seatbelt and a bruised left ear which is peculiar, as the car hit him from the right. Initially we assumed he hit his head on the side window. But when I has to emptied his minibus I could see no sign of what his head had hit if anything. No blood on anything, no print on the window, no damage to cab itself effectively and nothing to hit his head on ?? the airbag had gone off and windscreen intact and too far away. I can only assume it was the whiplash itself, and his head hit his own shoulder. I guess its tracker instincts ?
The coroner is still unsure of the cause of death, so has to perform an autopsy.
We were offered the body back minus brain to bury, but unanimously decided we would prefer him whole.
This means we have to wait a further 6 - 12 weeks before the funeral. :(
Its all a very sorry affair.
I am glad i had a chance to say my goodbyes, but sorry we had to go through all the ordeal of the hospital, and torturous decisions with life support. (Not helped but some very blunt and offensive surgeons.) I'm sorry he didn't wake up, but glad he didn't, and rejoin us as a vegetable - which he wouldn't have liked as an active and outgoing man - we think he would have preferred to die than to have been a burden. I'm sorry he died, but glad it was peaceful. I'm sorry it dragged on so long and he didn't die at the scene, it might have been best for all of us ? I spent days bouncing from one point of view to the other in hospital ??
I'm glad that i was there holding his hand when he passed. It is something i had to do, it was heart wrenching and horrible, but I'm glad it wasn't my vegetarian pregnant Sisters shift at the bedside. I have dealt death to a few creatures in my time, as i feel any meat eater should have to. It felt as if there was some justice in having to be on the receiving end, and that it was far better equipped to deal with it than my Sister. Any hunter has to examine their feelings and come to terms with death. I'm glad he passed peacefully in the end. I believe he chose to go by my side and spare my Sister and unborn child's feelings.
We didn't assume it was his time to go. We figured he would be around for another 20 years or so. That said really it was a good time, he has happy and relaxed, we had had a good family Christmas (minimal arguments !), he was semi retired, had some good friends, a collection of "toys" -tractors,jcb, trucks and some woods so he was enjoying life.

I feel fine. Which I find a little alarming and shameful. I don't know if I went through it all during the days before he died and came to terms with it. - I doubt it somehow ? I think being there until the last helped alto. I think I might have done a very efficient job of walling out my emotions, and stepped into the stiff upper lip "man of the family" roll. I think it might hit me when the funeral takes place.

Sorry for burdening you guys with this. But i know I have friends here who don't know my situation yet. So would rather you knew than touching a sore nerve with me later. Plus just typing it out has helped me to make put things in order.
Cheers guys sorry if it doesn't make much sense, but it a tangled mess in my mind still.

Rich
 

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Sorry mate, I hope time will help your loss, just get through each hour at a time then one day at a time and remember all the good times with him and most of all talk to family members about how each one of you feels.
all my sympathy peter (bloodline)
 

Ogri the trog

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Rich,
I don't know how to say this with the meaning that I intend, but thanks for sharing at this difficult time. I hope that when it comes to my turn, I can handle it with as much dignity as you have.

Your family are in my thoughts.

Ogri the trog
 

Tony

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Sorry to hear about your Loss Rich. Take care of yourself and get on with life, that's what a Father would want his son to do. He'll have gone but I believe that you'll see him again, he'll be proud to call you son, you can't ask for more than that.

You're right; you've got friends here, lean on them if you need to.

Tone
 

Steve K

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Rich,

I to had to say goodbye to my father after he got cancer back in 1992 (I was 18).

I spent 11 days, at his bedside before he died.

I had all of the thoughts and emotions that you describe and admit sheding a tear as I read you post as I remember those same experiences and empathise with you.

I don't feel any burden and am pleased to have listened if it has helped you.

My thoughts are with you and yours.

Steve
 

Greenpete

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My thoughts are with you as you know and I am here with all the others if you need some support.
You seem to have a very healthy and refreshing view on it all, I especially like your comments about being a hunter and that giving you a better understanding of death.
Your friend, Pete
 

Ahjno

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My condolences Rich, to you and your family - my thoughts are with you.
You're amongst friends on this forum, so no worries. If it makes you feel beter to type it on here, do so!
Take care mate, and all the strength at the funeral - and after that, to coop with this tragic and sad loss.
 

JFW

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RR,

Thankyou for your thoughs, I'm sure they will help all of us when we come upon this time ourselves.
My thought are with you and your family.

JFW
 

StormWalker

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Rich please accept my heart felt condolences for your loss.

The one peice of advice i can give is dont let your roll as the 'man of the family' stop you asking them for a shoulder to cry on.

It is no burden to help a friend!

StormWalker.
 

MagiKelly

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It is a terrible thing you have gone through and I can only pass on my condolences. My mother took a stroke last year and I had to make the decision about whether they should try an operation that would at best leave her with a very limited standard of living or to let nature take its course. I was fortunate that my other had always been very clear about her wishes in such a situation but it is still difficult to do.

All the best.
 

Martyn

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Rich, I'm gutted for you. Although I have not had such a personal loss, I have worked for many years in exactly the environment you dad was in, an intensive care unit specialising in head trauma, and have been through similar with far too many families. My deepest sympathies, it's one of the most emotionally traumatic things I can think of.

Our surgeons are blunt too - shockingly so at times. It's common to all neurosurgeons and ITU doctors. It's not that years of doing the job has desensitised them to the feelings of the family, it's that years of doing this has taught them it's the best way to deliver the devastating information. That may seem strange, a bit like using a hammer to squash an emotional fly, but families want desperately to hold on to whatever hope there may be. When there is none (or increadibly little), the kindest thing is to say so in a very blunt manner. The noradrenaline and ventilator can keep a person alive, long after there is no possible hope for them. If that situation gets protracted, by an unclear message from the surgeon, it turns into a horribly messy situation, that is profoundly more traumatic as the family eventually come to realise we are ventilating a dead person. The consultants are very acutely aware that they must not let that happen and have learned to be very blunt.

I cant imagine what you are going through now, my thoughts are with you.

Although I was not there, I do have a lot of experience in this area, I've helped many families through end of life decisions and if there are any questions you have, or anything that is bothering you, please feel free to PM me and I will do my best to help.

My sympathies,
Martyn.
 

BorderReiver

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I feel for you Rich.Don't worry about not feeling as bad as you feel that you should.Everyone reacts in their own way,there is no "correct" way to react to such a shocking loss.Grief will come in it's own time.Meanwhile use your strength to support the rest of your family.
 

tomtom

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Rich, my thoughts are with you in this sad time for you i have had a fair bit of death in my family and its hard to know what to think or feel.. i'v glad that you feel you can talk to use here though! chin up
 

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