Excellent :You_Rock_
I've allways struggled to find good knot tying instructions before
:You_Rock_
Andy
I've allways struggled to find good knot tying instructions before
:You_Rock_
Andy
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Good call, I learned all my stuff from trying to follow the pictures in books, some of them leave a lot to be desired in the illustration department.
I will re-do the Truckers Hitch to reflect this better way of doing it :You_Rock_
...and a different way to me too....now how to explain this without photos...just looking up my terminology...
I form a bight in the rope, pass it across the standing part and loop it under to form the top bend and top loop all in one action so it looks like half a sheep shank.
That gets me to the same stage as part of your video, with a "top loop" and a "bottom loop" surrounded by a half hitch (?).
Now, the important bit that wasn't shown was a half twist in the "bottom loop", this stops the half hitch from slipping out when the knot is tensioned.
When roping a trailer, the working part is formed into loop (I'll call this the "lower loop") and passed through the bottom loop and then the lower loop slips over a rope hook and the working part is pulled to tighten it all up. The working part is then secure to the same hook with a half hitch and reversed half hitch before moving on to the next hooks. That's what I was shown, many years ago, anyway. If you haven't got a hook and you have to go around an object such as a tree, you have to pass the rope through as you've shown.
Only thing to add is that you can then create more of these in the working part to make a pulley system for generating more tension.
There's also a different knot with the same name, formed by twisting the rope several times and passing the working loop through the loop formed.
I've yet to try a versatackle but it looks interesting.
I form a bight in the rope, pass it across the standing part and loop it under to form the top bend and top loop all in one action so it looks like half a sheep shank.
That gets me to the same stage as part of your video, with a "top loop" and a "bottom loop" surrounded by a half hitch (?).
Now, the important bit that wasn't shown was a half twist in the "bottom loop", this stops the half hitch from slipping out when the knot is tensioned.
When roping a trailer, the working part is formed into loop (I'll call this the "lower loop") and passed through the bottom loop and then the lower loop slips over a rope hook and the working part is pulled to tighten it all up. The working part is then secure to the same hook with a half hitch and reversed half hitch before moving on to the next hooks. That's what I was shown, many years ago, anyway. If you haven't got a hook and you have to go around an object such as a tree, you have to pass the rope through as you've shown.
Only thing to add is that you can then create more of these in the working part to make a pulley system for generating more tension.
There's also a different knot with the same name, formed by twisting the rope several times and passing the working loop through the loop formed.
I've yet to try a versatackle but it looks interesting.
Simon,
Great videos :You_Rock_
I've really struggled to learn knots from books, esp. when they are shown in poor pencil sketch drawings. You really have made the whole process very easy to follow.
Thanks very much mate.
Phil.
Great videos :You_Rock_
I've really struggled to learn knots from books, esp. when they are shown in poor pencil sketch drawings. You really have made the whole process very easy to follow.
Thanks very much mate.
Phil.
Important point to note.... Form the first loop of the 'Dolly' AT the anchor point, this may involve bending if you have a low trailer (I hate rings and love hooks as you can imagine. A speed thing!) then stand comfortably and do the twist etc, then take the bight down to the anchor point. This method leaves room to work and enough line to tension well without struggling. Tension and make off with two half hitches and if there is any spare line form a rolling hitch to keep this spare line tight and out of the way and also importantly clean! (your line will last longer too).
I hope this is of use. Swyn.
I hope this is of use. Swyn.
Thank you kind sir!
I got a little off track with the vids, here are some more
Tarbuck
Perfection loop
Modified Englishman's / True lovers knot
True Lovers Knot / Englishman's Knot
Constrictor Knot Be careful with this one, its a pain in the bum to loosen and you may actually have to cut it off!
Tarbuck Demo
Prussik Demo
Enjoy!
I got a little off track with the vids, here are some more
Tarbuck
Perfection loop
Modified Englishman's / True lovers knot
True Lovers Knot / Englishman's Knot
Constrictor Knot Be careful with this one, its a pain in the bum to loosen and you may actually have to cut it off!
Tarbuck Demo
Prussik Demo
Enjoy!
Another note on specialised knots is which of these can be un-done under tension. Why you may ask. Well there are times this is as important as the knot itself and dictates which knot to use in the first instance.
For example...Bowline...The loveliest of knots....Will undo perfectly having HAD a lot of tension on it, but will not undo while under tension.
Round turn and two half hitches will undo under tension along with the Lightermans Hitch.
Just a train of thought to consider as this focusses on the peculiaritys of each knot and the thought process one goes through as your knowlege increases.
Simon E with your Constrictor knot. Thanks for the warning!
Swyn.
For example...Bowline...The loveliest of knots....Will undo perfectly having HAD a lot of tension on it, but will not undo while under tension.
Round turn and two half hitches will undo under tension along with the Lightermans Hitch.
Just a train of thought to consider as this focusses on the peculiaritys of each knot and the thought process one goes through as your knowlege increases.
Simon E with your Constrictor knot. Thanks for the warning!
Swyn.
Last but not least.
*****DISCLAIMER******
This technique is not a recognised self rescue method. It is secure and fundamentally sound though.
]Munter Hitch
Figure 8
Figure 8 tied in (to a ring, belt, harness etc)
*****DISCLAIMER******
This technique is not a recognised self rescue method. It is secure and fundamentally sound though.
]Munter Hitch
Figure 8
Figure 8 tied in (to a ring, belt, harness etc)
Great to see some more knots up, its very handy being able to see them in action aswell.
Keep 'em comin'
Keep 'em comin'
Thanks all.
Can I make a simple request?
Please copy the video to your hard drive if you want to watch it over and over for practice.
Just right click on the video link and choose 'Save Target As' and put it somewhere safe.
I have plenty of bandwidth, but with multiple views per file by everyone it may max out the site and I need some for my business as well lol.
Cheers
Can I make a simple request?
Please copy the video to your hard drive if you want to watch it over and over for practice.
Just right click on the video link and choose 'Save Target As' and put it somewhere safe.
I have plenty of bandwidth, but with multiple views per file by everyone it may max out the site and I need some for my business as well lol.
Cheers
I've saved them all too.
Maybe BCUK will host them for you and make a section on the website for them?
I think it would be a really good idea cause they will help a lot of people to learn knots.
I used to spend ages repeating knots so that I could remember them, I just learnt the Tarbuk in minutes!
Maybe BCUK will host them for you and make a section on the website for them?
I think it would be a really good idea cause they will help a lot of people to learn knots.
I used to spend ages repeating knots so that I could remember them, I just learnt the Tarbuk in minutes!
If Tony has the spare bandwidth to host video files, I will re make them with a specially constructed frame so that you can not only see the knot, but how is works. This frame would have a post for 'quick release' knots like the Highwaymans Hitch (good for Hammocks) and load bearing and sliding or ascending knots.
I am looking at getting a better camera with 640x resolution so that we can have a bit more clarity and hopefully better sound
I am looking at getting a better camera with 640x resolution so that we can have a bit more clarity and hopefully better sound
As my first post on this site I would like to say "Thanks for the great videos"
I have to say, for me , this is a great way to learn new knots.
I have to say, for me , this is a great way to learn new knots.
Well done Si - real nice videos.
Like Scanker, knots are something I enjoy. I love learning new ones (and re-remembering the old again - Icicle hitch, that's one I've played with before but forgotten about)
I love the different ways they can be tied. I first learnt the bowline with the classic, "make the hole, rabbit comes out of the hole, round the tree and back down the hole". Years later I was shown a method that takes about 10 seconds but it was good having that initial method to know what's going on.
The constrictor (include the clove hitch with this too) is another good example. It's good to know how to tie them if you've got the end of the rope but I think it's also useful to know how to tie them in the middle of the rope.
Just as a slight aside, I learnt my constrictor knot slightly different to you. In the version I know, when you bring the live end under the diagonal piece you go over the first wrap around then back under it - essentially like you've tied an overhand knot with a diagonal over the top of it. I have no doubt your version works just as well and looks simpler to tie.
The alpine butterfly also has a number of ways to tie and I'm still not 100% sure which is the "right" one or even if there is a difference in stregth between them. They certainly look slightly different....
One I learnt recently that I find extremely useful was shown to me by Mors at the Moot.
It's a variant on the Trucker's Hitch but I don't know the name. Maybe someone else does?
What makes it better for me is the speed of tying, it's ability to self lock if you want but not if you don't plus the speed of untying and removing ll trace fo the knot.
If no one can come up with a name or a good description, I guess I'll have to make a video too!
Oh and I'll add a vote for the Falconer's Knot. A very poorly documented knot and I would love to learn it as everyone recommends it!
Like Scanker, knots are something I enjoy. I love learning new ones (and re-remembering the old again - Icicle hitch, that's one I've played with before but forgotten about)
I love the different ways they can be tied. I first learnt the bowline with the classic, "make the hole, rabbit comes out of the hole, round the tree and back down the hole". Years later I was shown a method that takes about 10 seconds but it was good having that initial method to know what's going on.
The constrictor (include the clove hitch with this too) is another good example. It's good to know how to tie them if you've got the end of the rope but I think it's also useful to know how to tie them in the middle of the rope.
Just as a slight aside, I learnt my constrictor knot slightly different to you. In the version I know, when you bring the live end under the diagonal piece you go over the first wrap around then back under it - essentially like you've tied an overhand knot with a diagonal over the top of it. I have no doubt your version works just as well and looks simpler to tie.
The alpine butterfly also has a number of ways to tie and I'm still not 100% sure which is the "right" one or even if there is a difference in stregth between them. They certainly look slightly different....
One I learnt recently that I find extremely useful was shown to me by Mors at the Moot.
It's a variant on the Trucker's Hitch but I don't know the name. Maybe someone else does?
What makes it better for me is the speed of tying, it's ability to self lock if you want but not if you don't plus the speed of untying and removing ll trace fo the knot.
If no one can come up with a name or a good description, I guess I'll have to make a video too!
Oh and I'll add a vote for the Falconer's Knot. A very poorly documented knot and I would love to learn it as everyone recommends it!
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