Denatured Acohol=Meths?

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gregorach

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Martyn said:
Using Ti for a stove is a bit of a wierd choice. You dont really need super strength and it's poor heat properties make it less desireable than other metals. It impacts on efficiency and usually means it needs more fuel to prime. So why use Ti in a cooker? Frankly, I dunno. Brass or steel or aluminium are better choices IMO.

Pure marketing. Many people automatically equate "titanium" with "very good", which is why it is (was?) a very fashionable term to attach to bits of computer hardware and mobile phones with no titanium involved at all.

Have you had a look at my red bull stove for the crusader? Boil time is about the same as you're getting for just filling the well with fuel, bit I reckon it needs less fuel to get there. It's my first attempt, and could probably be improved with a little tuning.
 

bogflogger

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Same number as yours Martyn: 28 holes.

I agree that the Triad is not as efficent as a Brass Trangia burner, but it is less than half the weight and bulk of one.

The Triad is also a lot more robust than any home made "Pepsi can" stove, which is the reason I got one.

Don't know if you fancy doing it, but perhaps some airholes around the crusader base, plus a foil windscreen would improve matters?
 

Martyn

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gregorach said:
Pure marketing. Many people automatically equate "titanium" with "very good", which is why it is (was?) a very fashionable term to attach to bits of computer hardware and mobile phones with no titanium involved at all.

Have you had a look at my red bull stove for the crusader? Boil time is about the same as you're getting for just filling the well with fuel, bit I reckon it needs less fuel to get there. It's my first attempt, and could probably be improved with a little tuning.

Yes mate, saw it and it looks superb. The materials are well suited for the job and it looks like you've got the pressure/output corrolation well sorted.

I'm gonna carry on modding the triad as it's a neat design, but I'm not holding my breath.
 

Martyn

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bogflogger said:
Same number as yours Martyn: 28 holes.

I agree that the Triad is not as efficent as a Brass Trangia burner, but it is less than half the weight and bulk of one.

The Triad is also a lot more robust than any home made "Pepsi can" stove, which is the reason I got one.

Don't know if you fancy doing it, but perhaps some airholes around the crusader base, plus a foil windscreen would improve matters?

I agree about the robustness compared to a pepsi can stove, they are fragile and by their nature, disposable. It's also a lot lighter than a trangia, true. But neither are issues with regard to the crusader unit. The thing with modding the fuel well, if I make it too specialised for the triad, I may loose functionality for use with other fuel sources. I'm reluctant to do that.

For the benefit of those interested here are some pics...

The unmodded triad...
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The triad with legs pulled off, drops almost perfectly into the fuel well of the crusader cooker unit...
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triad02.jpg


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Looks like it could've been made for the job, except performance is abismal.
 

Shambling Shaman

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Danceswithhelicopters said:
A quick question-is denatured alcohol the same as methylated spirits?
I have a ti Vargo stove and can't get much of a flame with meths.

So It it the same? is there a recomended brand?. My TX should be hear next week looking forward to testing it. would greenheat work in it? (gel)
 

oops56

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Now i make two types of stove they work good its a small shoe polish can with fiberglass house insulation cut hole in lid put window screen in lid put lid on ready to go on a 1/2 oz. alcohol burn time 11 min. 16 oz. of water boil time 7-1/2 min. this shoe can is small only 2 in. round as you can see it fits them esbit burner also in a altoids can which i make some pot stands that fit on the out side turn them out for big pots in for little plus the legs and stove all fit in can. now if you get a big shoe polish can or the altoids it will fit the crusader my two cents
 

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