Bow Fishing ? ? ? ? Can I? ? ?

[British Red]

You are wrong on several counts there Uilleachan. On calibres for example, Scotlands rules were well established but have in fact been reduced so that .223 is roe legal, although its deemed too light in England.

As for the increase in deer numbers being caused by estate numbers, numbers are up throughout Britain, in areas where there are forests or small farms just as much as large estates. Roe numbers are epidemic in Hampshire for example, and it seems unlikely that such a widespread rise is due to estate management hundreds of miles away.

If estates are breeding up numbers for financial reasons, why aren't more deer being shot?

 

[Stevie777]

Not much of an answer.

Cheers. S

 

[Toddy]

Would you mind stating which weapons that are cheap, and appropriate to despatch "deer on the hill", have been banned? Oh and some evidence of lobbying from Sporting Interests would be appreciated

Why ? and quoting lobbying of Victorian and Edwardian sporting interests would take a heck of a trawl for primary sources.
Yes, it really has roots that long…..and longer yet tbh.

I know someone who shoots roe with a shotgun. He's an ambush poacher……though I'll claim publically that that's an apocryphile tale.
Totally illegal. As is a 22 and I did know someone (he's dead nearly forty years now) who shot deer fairly regularly with one.
Crack shot though and always just where he wanted it. He learned in the army fighting the Japanese when he realised that they were using 22's and not the 303 the British were lugging around. They could easily carry much more ammunition, and unless trying to shoot through a brick wall every bit as effective at killing a man, so he thought they'd despatch a deer, and they did.
I sincerely doubt that many shots are as accurate though.

…..we have totally gotten OTT on this thread.
I'm out, and I'll ask another Mod to keep an eye on it.

atb,
M

 

[British Red]

Actually the act concerning calibres etc. came in in 1991. Never mind though.

 

[British Red]

Actually the act concerning calibres etc. came in in 1991, Schedule 2 of the 1991 Deer act. It was not Victorian, and was one of the pieces of nonsense legislation I referred to.

Still, never mind eh?

 

[santaman2000]

You are wrong on several counts there Uilleachan. On calibres for example, Scotlands rules were well established but have in fact been reduced so that .223 is roe legal, although its deemed too light in England.....

Any centerfire 22 or larger is legal here in most (if not all) southern states as well. That said, I don't know any adults actually using any such calibers on game larger than coyote, and damned few people buying that small a caliber for their kids to hunt deer. Despite these calibers being legal the most popular are 7mm or 270 and up for adults and 243 for kids. At least for those using rifles. The most popular shotguns for hunting deer sized game are 12 gauge for adults and 20 gauge for kids.

 

[Buckshot]

Can we stop trying to point score against each other please
I for one am getting fed up with it
You have been warned

Play nice

 

[boatnosepanbow]

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