Are hammockers the new vegetarians?
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Go and you try to eat an apple with no front teethor chew nuts with no molars
Toddy,
.. Canines then
Homo sapiens sapiens have canines so small that dentists sometimes remove them to allow enough room for molars not to be crowded. It can go unnoticed since they are frequently the same size as the incisors and milk teeth.
In other words a redundancy from our very early ancestors.....the declining size can be seen in the dentition of humanoids from before the advent of cooking.
cheers,
M
In other words a redundancy from our very early ancestors.....the declining size can be seen in the dentition of humanoids from before the advent of cooking.
cheers,
M
My boys are both vampires... very pronounced canines, but then I can wiggle my ears and I'm close to proto human.
There's a very interesting book called, "Catching Fire, how cooking made us human". We need to kickstart the book passaround again
Humanity is so changed from the great apes that, well does Tyson count ?
that using our teeth to catch food just isn't a skill set. No, Tyson doesn't count, he used his for assault, not dinner.
Weird set of teeth we have really.
They don't continue to replace themselves like sharks, nor do the incisors grow like rabbits, the canines can't catch anything or rip anything, and the molars don't shred meat effectively or grind silica rich plant material either.
Yet they bite chunks out of food, and they do chew soft stuff.
Our throats are narrow and our stomachs are small. We don't have the bowels of a carnivore nor do we have the extra bits associated with the ruminants, nor do we re-eat our own waste products to get a second chance at getting nourishment from them.
Basically we cherry pick the best of food and process it to make it both palatable and digestible. So much so that even humans without teeth manage quite well.
cheers,
Toddy
Humanity is so changed from the great apes that, well does Tyson count ?
that using our teeth to catch food just isn't a skill set. No, Tyson doesn't count, he used his for assault, not dinner.Weird set of teeth we have really.
They don't continue to replace themselves like sharks, nor do the incisors grow like rabbits, the canines can't catch anything or rip anything, and the molars don't shred meat effectively or grind silica rich plant material either.
Yet they bite chunks out of food, and they do chew soft stuff.
Our throats are narrow and our stomachs are small. We don't have the bowels of a carnivore nor do we have the extra bits associated with the ruminants, nor do we re-eat our own waste products to get a second chance at getting nourishment from them.
Basically we cherry pick the best of food and process it to make it both palatable and digestible. So much so that even humans without teeth manage quite well.
cheers,
Toddy
There's a very interesting book called, "Catching Fire, how cooking made us human". We need to kickstart the book passaround again
I saw a documentary about it - how cooking allowed our brains to evolve as the resources not required for digestion could be employed elsewhere....
pre molars( your 4s or 5s) are the teeth that will be removed to make space if needed, your canines guide your bite, they have the longest roots of all your teeth, they hold what your incisors cut.
.pre molars( your 4s or 5s) are the teeth that will be removed to make space if needed, your canines guide your bite, they have the longest roots of all your teeth, they hold what your incisors cut
and how do you know all this?....
Nance!? is that you??....hahahaha
Are you saying you know of idiots who think their canines mean something other than a means to grab food with your face?
It's hard giving CPR in a Hammock so oldies should stick to ground dwelling.
The only veggies who I respect are those who have had their incisors extracted as a sign of commitment.
Incisors (from Latin incidere, "to cut") are the first four front teeth present in heterodont mammals.
I know of two local children (now adults) who had the canine tooth removed for the reasons I described. Their mothers were surprised but the dentists insisted that it was by far the easiest and neatest option and would cause no trouble in the long run.
Tbh, seeing them talk and smile, I don't even notice that they don't have those incisors.
cheers,
Toddy
Tbh, seeing them talk and smile, I don't even notice that they don't have those incisors.
cheers,
Toddy
Bushcraft happens mostly in the woods for me so I usually go tarp and bivvy. Although I did get some bits to do up my hammock (DD travel) with after some unsuccesful (read wet ) nights in it.
If im going wild camping in the dales/moors i take a tent, horses for courses and all that.
) nights in it.If im going wild camping in the dales/moors i take a tent, horses for courses and all that.
One of the reasons I don't use a hammock is that I feel i would be betraying evolution. It took my ancestors hundreds of thousands of years to come down out of the trees, and they originally only went there to sleep because of the night dangers on the ground anyway. Now in the 21st century the woods and spinneys of this fair land are festooned with strange chrysalis type objects each with it's little fabric roof, from which during the hours of darkness wierd snorting noises issue. Boots and items of apparel hang beneath like some strange Goretex Spanish Moss swaying gently in the breeze.
The ancients would be amazed as the only nocturnal dangers at ground level now are the odd psycopathic Hedgehog and the occasional ill tempered Rabbit unable to sleep because his 249 kids are playing up in the bury. At daylight the Chrysalises open and the contents emerge to either set fire to meat or begin stripping the leaves off nearby bushes to munch.
This all leaves an elderly tent dweller very puzzled..
The ancients would be amazed as the only nocturnal dangers at ground level now are the odd psycopathic Hedgehog and the occasional ill tempered Rabbit unable to sleep because his 249 kids are playing up in the bury. At daylight the Chrysalises open and the contents emerge to either set fire to meat or begin stripping the leaves off nearby bushes to munch.
This all leaves an elderly tent dweller very puzzled..
No I don't.
For the life of me I have no idea how anyone ever thought that that swimming shiny thing would be good to eat
as for lobster, crabs, octopus....the whole concept leaves me totally bemused and appalled.But then, I wonder who the hang ever thought of eating a cow's guts stuffed with cooked blood
serving it with brined and smoked slices of fried pig's hin' end and unfertilised avian ova. Different mindset entirely about food.
Rationally I know that meat is good food, very palatable to many people, but I smell it cooking and it has as much appeal as passing an incinerator and thinking the smell edible. Total appetite loss usually.
I realise that there are a tremendous number of conscience vegetarians, who do what comes naturally to me and many others, with a great deal of sustained effort, but we're far from starving
and our diets are rich, tasty and filling and can be achieved with far fewer acerages than animals reared for meat.Another book worth reading is Diet for a small planet
cheers,
Toddy
not sure evolution told dozens if not hundreds of ethnic groups and tribes, who have used them for millennia before we had beds, tent or tarps. (probably before vegetarians too). infact id say we would argue, in my opinion anyway. if we were to not utilize what ever we have to make our lives more pleasant that would be a bigger betrayal of evolution!. ( no problems with veggies either, the missus is a eat nothing that ever had a face kinda weirdo.)
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Can anyone mind the link to the tent in the trees type thing? A pod of somekind. That was pretty cool
M
M
Can anyone mind the link to the tent in the trees type thing? A pod of somekind. That was pretty cool
M
Was it the big green bogey looking one?
I like these ones
forestwalker
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
No I don't.
For the life of me I have no idea how anyone ever thought that that swimming shiny thing would be good to eat
But then, I wonder who the hang ever thought of eating a cow's guts stuffed with cooked blood
Watch it, or I will dig up the interesting recipies. Sheeps stomach, stuffed with a mixture of sheeps blood, rye flour and lichen. Boiled uterus...
Wht amazes and irritates me is that people won't eat all opf the animal. And if the pet food industry did not use the rest I'd be terribly upset.
I realise that there are a tremendous number of conscience vegetarians, who do what comes naturally to me and many others, with a great deal of sustained effort, but we're far from starving
The counter argument is that not all land that is suitable for grazing is suitable for growing crops. I agree with you on principle, though, even if I happily eat all kinds of animal bits. Part of the greenhouse effect is cow farts and burps.
