Id like to know if Knives are on sale to the general public(over the required age of course) how is one supposed to transport them from one place to another? without being/or seen to be commiting a offence?
Id like to know if Knives are on sale to the general public(over the required age of course) how is one supposed to transport them from one place to another? without being/or seen to be commiting a offence?
how is one supposed to transport them from one place to another? without being/or seen to be commiting a offence?
Id like to know if Knives are on sale to the general public(over the required age of course) how is one supposed to transport them from one place to another? without being/or seen to be commiting a offence?
I had the pleasure to teach a serving Inspector in the local Constabulary not that long ago, he gave me a bit of good advice, carry a half finished spoon or other bit of whittling in your bag, that way, the tools are required for your hobby and therefore you have a perfectly good and valid reason to be carrying them.
I was also told a while ago that if a knife can be legally sold in the UK then it can legally owned.
Hope all goes well for you
On that note, a lot of protestors etc carry what they call a bust card - it lays out what the police and the person carrying the card should, and shouldn't do, gives explanations of the relevant laws and lists contacts for legal advice etc. In my experience the police are a lot more obliging and a lot less belligerent when one of them is produced. Possibly something along those lines with a letter froma permission would be a sensible (if sad that it's needed) addition to a bushy kit.....
There's a heck of a lot of negative comments about the Police on here.
There's a heck of a lot of negative comments about the Police on here. I can see it's upsetting and folk feel wronged. But creating a chasm between Bushcrafters and the Police isn't a good way to go. We'll lose in the long run. Yes there are some awful cops out there implementing badly structured and implemented laws. But the vast majority are good folk. Just the same as in 90% of organisations. Wouldn't education and contact be better? If the cops come into your camp, be open and relaxed with them - offer them a coffee and a biscuit (we talk about biscuits enough). Chances are it's been a long night shift dealing with idiots and even an offer that's declined will be appreciated. I've got one of our local bobbies quite interested and he fancies giving it a go.
If you foster bad feeling they'll pick up on it and wonder what your up too.
I don't like the situation Mouse is in and it should never have escalated to where it is. And I want it to be worked out well.
Just my tuppence worth,
GB.
He will be able to claim for his costs from the other side.
In a commerical dispute you sometimes only get back around 80% of costs though. Something to ask the solicitor.
Dont know how it would work here, but If anyones passing a hat around, I would be willing to slip a few quid in, if he does not recieve his full costs, as something like this affects us all.
If you dont mind Mouse040, would you inform us of the financial costs involved?
How much it costs you to retain the services of the solicitor?
If youre entire costs were met by the police, if you are sucessful in your claim?
If you were entitled to any legal aid etc?
This problem is sure to rise again, and most people would not go as far as taking the police to court, for fear of the unknown, and the cost involved.
Thankyou.
deservedly so, mouse did nothing wrong the police did.
There's a heck of a lot of negative comments about the Police on here. I can see it's upsetting and folk feel wronged. But creating a chasm between Bushcrafters and the Police isn't a good way to go. We'll lose in the long run. Yes there are some awful cops out there implementing badly structured and implemented laws. But the vast majority are good folk. Just the same as in 90% of organisations. Wouldn't education and contact be better? If the cops come into your camp, be open and relaxed with them - offer them a coffee and a biscuit (we talk about biscuits enough). Chances are it's been a long night shift dealing with idiots and even an offer that's declined will be appreciated. I've got one of our local bobbies quite interested and he fancies giving it a go.
If you foster bad feeling they'll pick up on it and wonder what your up too.
I don't like the situation Mouse is in and it should never have escalated to where it is. And I want it to be worked out well.
Just my tuppence worth,
GB.
Well that was the biggest waste of my time I have ever experienced
Firstly, when I arrived I was taken to a room and then meet by the Sargent on shift ( not the chief inspector ) who informed me that he or anyone else would not be considering reversing or changing the position / stance that had been taken yesterday and I was only invited to the station to complete a complaints form which would be responded to
Secondly , upon asking what the outcome could possibly be by completing the complaints form I was told he did not know as each case was different
Thirdly , I asked why I was not being seen by the chief constable as I had requested and was told that I was given what is deemed adequate audience in response to my complaint
My solicitor then implied that we would be pursuing legal action in reaction to what we believe to be unlawfull confiscation of my property and we were considering using the local media to express my distress
The reply being that I am free to consider which ever avenue I feel nessasary and this would not change the position today
So I've had no choice but to leave today no better off or wiser than before my solicitors opinion is that although he feels I was not to blame in any way ir in the wrong I am fighting a losing battle and a costly battle at that he feels that the complaint will lead to my warning being removed I stand little chance of getting my knife back
So in reflection lads and lasses if you are asked to empty the contents of your bag simply refuse as unless they have good cause to search you they have little power to do so
On ending this I want to say I have never had a criminal record or indeed had cause to doubt our police force in any way but it seems like in all aspects of life , birds of a feather fly together and I'm a ugly duckling on this occasion
I will let you know upon hearing a response from my complaint
Lastly.
I really apriciate all of the advise and support from you all and thank everyone who has had kind offers I post on this forum because I enjoy sharing experiences of like minded people and it just happens that my post this time was not of the pleasurable sort but at no point would I accept any offers of help financially or replacing my knife this was not even a concideration when I made the post I hope this comment has not offended as it is not ment to the only thing I would ever accept from any member on here if friendship and advice as I can return these in bulk
There's a heck of a lot of negative comments about the Police on here. I can see it's upsetting and folk feel wronged. But creating a chasm between Bushcrafters and the Police isn't a good way to go. We'll lose in the long run. Yes there are some awful cops out there implementing badly structured and implemented laws. But the vast majority are good folk. Just the same as in 90% of organisations. Wouldn't education and contact be better? If the cops come into your camp, be open and relaxed with them - offer them a coffee and a biscuit (we talk about biscuits enough). Chances are it's been a long night shift dealing with idiots and even an offer that's declined will be appreciated. I've got one of our local bobbies quite interested and he fancies giving it a go.
If you foster bad feeling they'll pick up on it and wonder what your up too.
I don't like the situation Mouse is in and it should never have escalated to where it is. And I want it to be worked out well.
Just my tuppence worth,
GB.