The fire hammock

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tombear

On a new journey
Jul 9, 2004
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Excellent! What a brilliant concept!

As a variation on a theme, do you think the felt could be used for a tripod fire based on this sort of stool

http://www.bighousedaddy.com/three_legged_camp_stool.htm

just wider and lower to the ground? Does the felt insulate enough so the legs could be site sourced wood so all you would carry is the seat part and a ring the legs are held together with at the crossing point?

ATB

Tom
 

tombear

On a new journey
Jul 9, 2004
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So a triangle of the material with chains on the corners with a loop or a ring on the ends which would fit into notches cut onto the legs of the tripod.? The middle son uses a brass ring with a chain attached to hold his tripod together, with a small hook on the other end to adjust the height of his cauldron.

atb

tom
 

WoodsmanJim

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Oct 27, 2013
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What about a piece of mesh/ grill (the same size as the felt) put between the chains 6" above the felt. This would not only provide a cooking surface but also hold the felt open a bit more to provide a flatter base for the fire. If the mesh had open ends then each corner could just poke through a loop of the chain, which also mean you could vary the height at which you set it!
Does that make sense?

Jim
 

mountainm

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Jan 12, 2011
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So here's v2. I noticed some damage to the felt. Probably due to abrasion - so this model includes a foil pie tray and a triangular shape with sides.

So far a few things have me a bit worried. On this test, at some points there was an odd smell and the felt was glowing in a similar manner to Char cloth. I suspect whilst fire proof the cloth still undergoes a chemical change. So it's durability may be questionable.

The other noticeable effect was the fire softening the pie tray. It curled in on itself.

The new model is a hefty 52g without suspension.

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palmnut

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Should have patented that idea before posting! ;-)

How about the woven heat proof fabric that you can get for protecting walls/skirting board when ga torch soldering plumbing pipes? That's built to stand a much higher temperature than a wood fire.

Peter
 

mountainm

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Jan 12, 2011
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Ok. The jury is in. The carbon felt doesn't seem to have been affected at all. The pie tray has had it though. It appears to have melted in places and burnt in others. Give carbon felt is such an effective insulator maybe I shouldn't be surprised. Going to get my hands on some titanium foil next, and maybe vent the felt with some holes.

This could end up being expensive if I'm not careful!
 

mountainm

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Should have patented that idea before posting! ;-)

How about the woven heat proof fabric that you can get for protecting walls/skirting board when ga torch soldering plumbing pipes? That's built to stand a much higher temperature than a wood fire.

Peter

Too easy to create a variant to patent. Waste of time and money trying.

Carbon felt (what I'm using) is used in some plumbers heat proof mats.
 

bushwacker bob

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If its a good insulator, just put the mat on the ground, you could even remove a sod or paving slab and have a fire directly on the ground. Now there is food for thought eh?
 

Harvestman

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It just occurred to me that those otherwise rather useless folding metal steamer things that open like a fan into a circle would work for this idea, and would pack small but hold their shape when fuel was added. As they already have holes in they would be easy to attach to a chain.
 

mountainm

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Jan 12, 2011
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It just occurred to me that those otherwise rather useless folding metal steamer things that open like a fan into a circle would work for this idea, and would pack small but hold their shape when fuel was added. As they already have holes in they would be easy to attach to a chain.

But are they 50g? Trying to get a lightweight option...
 

mousey

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Jun 15, 2010
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If its a good insulator, just put the mat on the ground, you could even remove a sod or paving slab and have a fire directly on the ground. Now there is food for thought eh?

If it doesn't have holes in the corner and chains to suspend it how do you hold it at the end and swing it around when it gets dark to get a funky [albeit dangerous] light show?



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