Sika?

[Bushwhacker]

This is the black mark I mean - http://gb.fotolibra.com/images/previews/185519-roe-deer-doe.jpeg

 

[Chiseller]

I cant see the pictures that clearly :-( but i've `foraged' a few in my time and am still goin wi roe ;-) show us its buffer ;-)

 

[Damascus]

From the size I don't think its a Roe to big

 

[Chiseller]

Experience tells that you'd be strugglin to get a sika..unless young...in back of a car. Especially on your own ;-)

 

[Geoff Dann]

Full impact on one side meant I had to discard the legs and flank on that side. The other side of the carcass was usable, as was both sides of the saddle. Didn't bother with the liver...got the heart though.

 

[Geoff Dann]

Are the markings around the mouth white? If so that's a Roe doe which is very common in Sussex. Sika isn't and is only a little smaller than Red. Where did you pick it up?

On the A272 near Piltdown.

 

[Geoff Dann]

Only using a phone with 1.5 X2INCH screen but i'd bet my next meal that is a roe hind. Sika are much bigger and stronger. A sika would have totalled the car an sent it spinning. Sika prefer moorland valleys with there woods.

Well recovered. Did you know that if you'd have hit it, then it would be illegal to take it home !

Yeah I know that. I told that to the driver of the car that hit it! He wasn't interested in taking it anyway. He was very upset about his car.

 

[Geoff Dann]

Definitely not Roe.
A quick look at the rump would decide for me whether it's Sika or Fallow.

I have found roe before, and butchered four of them. It's definately not a roe.

 

[Geoff Dann]

Ps. You should have gutted it in the wood. Get them puddings out quick as you can. As the deer hasn't been traumatised (unless it was a lingering death) then it shouldn't be too bloody and the meat will taste awesome. Enjoy

It wasn't in a wood! And I didn't have a decent knife. I was looking for mushrooms (and found none.)

 

[widu13]

That makes me think Roe even more (I thought I recognised the road only 4 miles from me!)

 

[Geoff Dann]

I was thinking this, I can imagine the insurance company... "You hit a deer? Uh huh, and I'm Bambi."

The front of the car was plastered with deer hair. It didn't look like he'd hit another car.

 

[Geoff Dann]

I'm still wagering its a roe

Definitely NOT a roe. Too big, and the head is the wrong shape, and its the wrong colour. This deer was grey, not browny-orange.

rump:

That's not me by the way. That's my new housemate Adam who used to be a chef. I let him take over after I'd done the nasty bits.

 

[Silverback 1]

As far as i am aware,all wild deer are regarded as "ownerless" but any deer found dead or caught accidently in fencing etc. or killed in some other way, become the property of

the landowner unless the rights of ownership has been passed to someone else.

 

[Geoff Dann]

Experience tells that you'd be strugglin to get a sika..unless young...in back of a car. Especially on your own ;-)

I struggled. I waited for Adam to come home before trying to negotiate the stairs with it.

 

[stuey]

You only need a licence to kill or sell game.

From the BASC website. May clear up a bit of confusion

"It has not been a requirement to hold a game licence to kill or deal in game in England and Wales since 1 August 2007.

Game licences and game dealers licences have been abolished in Scotland with effect from 7 April 2011 when the new Wildlife and Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill was passed.

With effect from 13 June 2011 the requirement to have a licence to kill game or deal in game has been abolished in Northern Ireland. This came into effect with the passing of the Wildlife and Natural Environment Act 2011."

Stu

 

[Geoff Dann]

As far as i am aware,all wild deer are regarded as "ownerless" but any deer found dead or caught accidently in fencing etc. or killed in some other way, become the property of

the landowner unless the rights of ownership has been passed to someone else.

That is also my understanding, and in this case the owner is the Highways Agency. They are obliged to pick up deer carcasses for health and safety reasons, so I just saved them a job.

 

[widu13]

Correct. They are not interested in deer carcasses other than having to get rid of them.

 

[Silverback 1]

That is also my understanding, and in this case the owner is the Highways Agency. They are obliged to pick up deer carcasses for health and safety reasons, so I just saved then a job.

Definitely a preferable option to have the venison in your freezer.

 

[widu13]

Hard to tell from the photo. Did the rump look like this?

 

[blacktimberwolf]

Definitely NOT a roe. Too big, and the head is the wrong shape, and its the wrong colour. This deer was grey, not browny-orange.

rump:

That's not me by the way. That's my new housemate Adam who used to be a chef. I let him take over after I'd done the nasty bits.

That looks like a sika's rump