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mountainm

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If you get the job it does not mean there is not one out there for the someone else. If you got the job you may be more suited to it than them.

What about the crap jobs that no one wants to do? The dull, monotonous jobs. The dirty smelly jobs. The menial degrading jobs.

They all need doing. Who does them? Do we pay more for people to do these jobs? How much more? Or are these jobs for someone else?
 

British Red

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You could chose to live on a global wage and choose to maintain inequality - that tells me all I need to know.
 

Swallow

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What about the crap jobs that no one wants to do? The dull, monotonous jobs. The dirty smelly jobs. The menial degrading jobs.

They all need doing. Who does them? Do we pay more for people to do these jobs? How much more? Or are these jobs for someone else?

You could chose to live on a global wage and choose to maintain inequality - that tells me all I need to know.

Sorry guys, but both these posts are firmly rooted in working within, and thereby maintaining, the Status Quo. A limited set of choices not looking for better options that can transform.
 

mountainm

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Sorry guys, but both these posts are firmly rooted in working within, and thereby maintaining, the Status Quo. A limited set of choices not looking for better options that can transform.

How about answering the question instead of avoiding it? And what on earth has Optimus Prime got to do with it?
 

British Red

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Swallow you are as convincing as a guy espousing vegetarianism whist cramming his mouth with cheeseburgers. You work within the status quo and enjoy all the benefits of inequality. You do it today and you will do it tomorrow.

Come back when you live on the global average income and when you can convince the rest of the country to give up all those things that most of the world lacks and are therefor "unequal"

the NHS ,
free primary and secondary education,
maternity pay,
disabled living allowance
the old age pension

remember when you withdraw the old age pension because its unequal to remind the pensioners that there is "plenty to go around"
 

Swallow

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How about answering the question instead of avoiding it? And what on earth has Optimus Prime got to do with it?

Sure. WE don't pay those guys more. If I had the option, they would get paid the same as everyone else. My binman is probably one of the most influential people in my life, given I live in a city.
 

mountainm

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Sure. WE don't pay those guys more. If I had the option, they would get paid the same as everyone else. My binman is probably one of the most influential people in my life, given I live in a city.

So someone with no real skills, no craft, who invested no time (or hasn't the talent) in bettering themselves should be paid the same as someone who has?

A shelf stacker should be on the same salary as a doctor or a teacher?
 

Swallow

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Swallow you are as convincing as a guy espousing vegetarianism whist cramming his mouth with cheeseburgers. You work within the status quo and enjoy all the benefits of inequality. You do it today and you will do it tomorrow.

Come back when you live on the global average income and when you can convince the rest of the country to give up all those things that most of the world lacks and are therefor "unequal"

the NHS ,
free primary and secondary education,
maternity pay,
disabled living allowance
the old age pension

remember when you withdraw the old age pension because its unequal to remind the pensioners that there is "plenty to go around"

Why would I need to convince you of anything? It's not like I have asked anyone for anything on this thread (save an explanation I understand of how inequality is necessary). Nor is like I have asked anyone to take up my opinion, to believe it or act it out.
 
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mountainm

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So someone with no real skills, no craft, who invested no time (or hasn't the talent) in bettering themselves should be paid the same as someone who has?

A shelf stacker should be on the same salary as a doctor or a teacher?

No one would do the stressful jobs, everyone would compete for the stress free easy jobs.
 

Swallow

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May 27, 2011
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So someone with no real skills, no craft, who invested no time (or hasn't the talent) in bettering themselves should be paid the same as someone who has?

A shelf stacker should be on the same salary as a doctor or a teacher?
Yep, that's what I'm saying.
 

Swallow

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May 27, 2011
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No one would do the stressful jobs, everyone would compete for the stress free easy jobs.

Actually I've seen many positions that advertise the job as "high stress" and know a few people who get bored unless they are in one. So I'm not buying that.
 

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