ChrisKavanaugh
Need to contact Admin...
I didn't move here, 3rd generation Californian. Black bears are far more dangerous than the big brownies statistically anyday.
Carcajou Garou said:Most first nations have tribal "divisions" within their population, it helps to identify lineages, social roles, community, ceremonies etc... not nessaseeraly a class system. I am of Aboriginal descent Mohawk/Metis and my mothers lineage is the bear lodge (clan). It is a way of governing ourselves (it is a matriarchal system) There are a variety of "laws" or behavioral guides that I am responsible to keep, one is the non h.u.n.t.i.n.g of bears which are our "symbol", protector, guide, my brothers and sisters, you would do no harm to your family would you? This is one of the reasons that I study bear behavior, habitat, and am keenly aware of true/false perception that many folks think is bear behavior when actualy it is their own interpretation on events and circumstances that are not always what they seem (have to look at events in all varied points of view and not dimiss them because you don't agree with the end results). People tend taint their observations with preconsieved ideas of what they are actualy seeing so they can rationalise it in their own morality. As StotRE was saying the bear was following them down a trail, bears just don't casually stroll on a trail for a breath of fresh air, he(?) was stalking them either as a point of interest (they are very curious beings), or as a food source,, or as a interlopers that she(?) has to keep an eye on because of possibly cubs around (somewhere's),, or a food source that he(?) thought StotRE might take away from him(?) etc... I don't imply that bears should be s.h.o.t on sight but once aware of their presence, be wary of their possible intentions... The bush is not always safe or dangerous, either animals or the weather or terrain can be positive or negative depends on your knowledge and experience and abilities. Be safe... It is said that Mohawks are great orators... I just talk a lot
just a thought
Carcajou Garou said:Most first nations have tribal "divisions" within their population, it helps to identify lineages, social roles, community, ceremonies etc... not nessaseeraly a class system. I am of Aboriginal descent Mohawk/Metis and my mothers lineage is the bear lodge (clan). It is a way of governing ourselves (it is a matriarchal system) There are a variety of "laws" or behavioral guides that I am responsible to keep, one is the non h.u.n.t.i.n.g of bears which are our "symbol", protector, guide, my brothers and sisters, you would do no harm to your family would you? This is one of the reasons that I study bear behavior, habitat, and am keenly aware of true/false perception that many folks think is bear behavior when actualy it is their own interpretation on events and circumstances that are not always what they seem (have to look at events in all varied points of view and not dimiss them because you don't agree with the end results). People tend taint their observations with preconsieved ideas of what they are actualy seeing so they can rationalise it in their own morality. As StotRE was saying the bear was following them down a trail, bears just don't casually stroll on a trail for a breath of fresh air, he(?) was stalking them either as a point of interest (they are very curious beings), or as a food source,, or as a interlopers that she(?) has to keep an eye on because of possibly cubs around (somewhere's),, or a food source that he(?) thought StotRE might take away from him(?) etc... I don't imply that bears should be s.h.o.t on sight but once aware of their presence, be wary of their possible intentions... The bush is not always safe or dangerous, either animals or the weather or terrain can be positive or negative depends on your knowledge and experience and abilities. Be safe... It is said that Mohawks are great orators... I just talk a lot
just a thought
bombadil said:I have to relate the total disappointment I feel reading through some of the entries on this topic. This is a website for bushcrafters, not for comparing the relative merits of differing types of fire arm and rounds with which to kill a bear.
Also as a proffesional forester and biodiversity conservationist, I am more than a little concerned with the somewhat flippant manner in which some people take this issue. Hunting for food and ones personal needs is one thing, but some people here seem to be a little too enthusiastic about this discussion. There are better websites for such topics.