Sounds good Jon, please add me to the list
Rob - I gave the Wiseman tool a good go and I didn't like it much either - I'd be happy to compare both to that as a a baseline
For any that haven't seen one, this was my Wiseman tool
![](http://farm1.static.flickr.com/156/415829421_7610551648.jpg)
Wiseman by British Red, on Flickr
Red
Rob - I gave the Wiseman tool a good go and I didn't like it much either - I'd be happy to compare both to that as a a baseline
For any that haven't seen one, this was my Wiseman tool
![](http://farm1.static.flickr.com/156/415829421_7610551648.jpg)
Wiseman by British Red, on Flickr
Red