Uses for an old tree saw and rip saw?

[Bucephalas]

I picked up an nice old tree saw and rip saw that was destined for the skip yesterday.
I may have a go at restoring the tree saw to its former splendour but what about the rip saw?

Suitable for making some small carving knives or not?

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[British Red]

I'm a wee bit confused - not sure what a "tree saw" is? I'm assuming the larger two man 4' saw is what you mean?

Its really hard to tell, but the 3' one man saw appears to be a crosscut grind rather than a rip unless my eyes are off?

 

[ozzy1977]

Clean it up and use it or hang it on the wall in the man cave

 

[Bucephalas]

Now now Red, lets not poke fun at the simple folk.
Cross cut/rip saw its just a saw to me but the owner who kindly gave it to me described it as a cross cut saw so who am I to argue. He's had it some 40 years before me.

The one I'm thinking of putting a torch to is that saw. The other is a two man 4foot jobby which even I can guess is used to cut trees.



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[Bucephalas]

Clean it up and use it or hang it on the wall in the man cave

I'm going to clean it up to hang in the man cave. I may even cut a tree down with it you never know.


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[British Red]

Now now Red, lets not poke fun at the simple folk.
Cross cut/rip saw its just a saw to me but the owner who kindly gave it to me described it as a cross cut saw so who am I to argue.

Not sure why you think I was poking fun?

Crosscut and rip are ground differently and serve different purposes (cross grain and along grain cutting)

I would have been happy to describe the differences and tell you how to restore them, but I'll let someone else reply since I am apparently poking fun - sorry you feel that way.

 

[Bucephalas]

My comment was tongue in cheek Red. Can't find emoticons on Tapatalk.
;-)

 

[Mouse040]

I'm a wee bit confused - not sure what a "tree saw" is? I'm assuming the larger two man 4' saw is what you mean?

Its really hard to tell, but the 3' one man saw appears to be a crosscut grind rather than a rip unless my eyes are off?

I suppose unless we could accurately measure the angle of the grind we would struggle to determine the use between ripp or cross cutting as both grind configurations were used dependent on the type of material being used I.e green or seasoned wood mid 40s for cross and mid 60s for ripp if I'm remembering correctly

Either way they both cut trees so tree saw was good for me okenest:

As for the question you asked Bucephalus in my experience the steel isn't particularly good after its constant subjection to heat transferred from continuous friction but they look great in the cave

Ps please don't clean them there old leave them old

 

[British Red]

I suppose unless we could accurately measure the angle of the grind we would struggle to determine the use between ripp or cross cutting as both grind configurations were used dependent on the type of material being used I.e green or seasoned wood mid 40s for cross and mid 60s for ripp if I'm remembering correctly

??

A rip saw is ground with a uniform tooth bevel at 90 degrees to the line of cut. A crosscut saw has teeth with the bevel at alternate angles. Tooth angle, kerf etc. isn't what defines function or distinction.

This may help

 

[Mouse040]

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A rip saw is ground with a uniform tooth bevel at 90 degrees to the line of cut. A crosscut saw has teeth with the bevel at alternate angles. Tooth angle, kerf etc. isn't what defines function or distinction.

This may help

But how does that answer the original question


Suitable for making some small carving knives or not?

 

[Bucephalas]

Gee whizz folks.
I'll just hang the dam thing in my cave.
Handbags down now and play nice with the other children please!

Mouse, when are we going kingfisher hunting then? I miss all the fun ;-)
(Is that a "saw" point? If so, don't be "cross" with me or "rip" me a new one when we get together next)

((See what I did there?))




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[Mr Adoby]

Learn to play the saw! I can play simple tunes like twinkle twinkle little star, on a wood saw I have. At least I think it sounds like twinkle twinkle little star... I play it with a small piece of wood as a small hammer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_saw

 

[Bladeophile]

Lovely old saws. Made for a time when men were generally tougher (or breakfasts bigger!)

I used saw blade material to make a small bushcraft knife to pair up with a larger survival knife integrated into the same sheath. Gives you the best of both worlds without hardly increasing the weight any. Just an idea.

 

[Nice65]

This is an excellent document.

http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/recreational_trails/publications/fs_publications/77712508/