Pheasants.
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Cain't speak for his. But did (as are my grandkids now) after all, they got to go on driven shoots (although for deer rather than pheasant)
Interesting educational theory you have in Dorset, force fed philosophy is a quaint idea but strange. Incidentally I rather like "Tugboy" brilliant little ships they are Bushwa.ker ( there, I nearly substituted another letter for the letter c but it would be rude and crass to attempt to distort someone's ID).
Well, I don't know how old you are... I remember reading it at least twice at home and once in school, and then reading it with my kids last year. It's a bit dated, but still a good read.
Hmmm I've just read the rest of this post and I must say it's really quite upsetting. Some really very hurtful things are being said with little regard as to target.
I won't post a long thread backing up my side, quote passages or structure an argument, I'm a law student and I have to do that every day anyway.
What I will say is that it's saddening that people who all have a general interest in the countryside, the thing I regard dearest in this country, can't put their differences aside and get a long. You may say 'It's not that simple', but that's moronic, it really is very simple to civil, polite and display good manners, and best of all it costs nothing so should span all 'classes'.
Are some of you so blind that you cannot see hatred for a group only forces that group together and makes integration more difficult?
Perhaps one should be pleased that the countryside is so loved it has people fighting over it, but honestly it really isn't necessary.
I won't post a long thread backing up my side, quote passages or structure an argument, I'm a law student and I have to do that every day anyway.
What I will say is that it's saddening that people who all have a general interest in the countryside, the thing I regard dearest in this country, can't put their differences aside and get a long. You may say 'It's not that simple', but that's moronic, it really is very simple to civil, polite and display good manners, and best of all it costs nothing so should span all 'classes'.
Are some of you so blind that you cannot see hatred for a group only forces that group together and makes integration more difficult?
Perhaps one should be pleased that the countryside is so loved it has people fighting over it, but honestly it really isn't necessary.
There is no discourse possible with Boatman.
She is exhibiting the classic post-and-run behaviour of a troll.
Note that none of the rebuttals of the positions taken in that deeply flawed "animal aid" document, the question of how rich is too rich too go shooting, etc.
Coupled with the offensiveness of some the comments made on this thread one wonders why they bother at all...
She is exhibiting the classic post-and-run behaviour of a troll.
Note that none of the rebuttals of the positions taken in that deeply flawed "animal aid" document, the question of how rich is too rich too go shooting, etc.
Coupled with the offensiveness of some the comments made on this thread one wonders why they bother at all...
Just My thoughts on the matter. Having lived all my life in the country, I very much appreciate that the shoots are an essential income for land owners. They need a way to make agriculture pay, as the average Dairy farmer barely makes enough to feed the Beast let alone their Family. I find that strayed Game is fair. lets face it, it's a situation of 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. Just as your birds will wander off, the next shoot looses some to you, it's a cycle really. The numbers of pheasant killed on the road is mainly down to the fact that they are fed from the back of a Hi-Lux, in a pheasants head Diesel Engine = Dinner. I've seen it that pheasant will run up to my Pick-Up, that is normal behaviour for them to do. I'm not the type to just ring their necks when I get out, as I happen to have no want to take them. On the subject of a class war, I find that the Gentry are not the issue, it's the jumped up wee numpties that cannae shoot straight. Too often their are people who pose, and when I mean pose I mean don their Breeks and pretend to be the 8th Barron of somewhere (OK a tad hyperbolic), the actual Gentry tend to be down to earth and have more a kinship with the keepers and beaters than the people paying the money. I'm not saying that all of the Guns are like that but We can't deny some are. On the note of Boar, there looks to be a breeding population in Galloway, I personally quite like them being back in the UK. Boar are both TASTY and useful, I would make a wee bet that the woodland quality will improve wherever the boar go (natural instincts and all). I can't see why a Government run reintroduction program could not be set up. But as for a proper answer to the initial question. You can take Pheasant, Grouse, Capercaillie and Blackcock as long as it is on your land and in season but beware if it falls beyond the boundry its poaching if you retrieve, unless you were to use a secretly trained Cat as they are a roaming creature to retrieve said bird.
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I'd be really happy for this thread to be shut down now. It has evolved into something I had never intended.
Ta
Windy
I'd be really happy for this thread to be shut down now. It has evolved into something I had never intended.
Ta
Windy
There is a type of poster on forums who feels that somehow they are entitled to have every one of their points answered in detail and take umbrage if they are not. There is no point normally in trying to answer in the detail that they insist on as any reply will only evoke more of the same. To deny the Animal Aid report but to take their posted references as gospel is naive. As the OP has commented I shall return to my basic points and that, for me will be that.
Pheasants stray when released and are a nuisance on some roads.
Many are killed when they stray which is a shame.
One reason for this is the massive number reared, many in battery cages.
That there are battery cages used is admitted by the BASC and pheasants are also imported from France where battery cages are in common use.
Shooting driven pheasants is not a tradition, it is a pastime and a business.
That will do as all the rest is noise generated by the heat of the discussion.
Pheasants stray when released and are a nuisance on some roads.
Many are killed when they stray which is a shame.
One reason for this is the massive number reared, many in battery cages.
That there are battery cages used is admitted by the BASC and pheasants are also imported from France where battery cages are in common use.
Shooting driven pheasants is not a tradition, it is a pastime and a business.
That will do as all the rest is noise generated by the heat of the discussion.
Do you not think this perpetuates the friction though?
I mean, they are "posh prat ack-ack batteries" and you are "poaching fringe survivalist nut cases".
I'm sure if you just politely asked for a brace...
There is a type of poster on forums that feels that their intellectual negligibility means they are somehow entitles to raise spurious points in great detail and take umbrage if they are asked to address the few relevant points they do eventually post, even by proxy.
The easiest way for this type of poster to salvage some respect and stand a chance of being taken seriously is two-fold:
The first, answer the points raised by their own postings and the second is to show only as much arrogance as their demonstrable knowledge and debating abilities allow for.
The rest is just heat generated by a troll crapping.
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