New Mora basic allround pro S disappointment.

[BigMonster]

Exactly this one:
http://www.heinnie.com/mora-basic-allround-pro-s

Well I got my new Mora. Few words as the pictures speak for themselves.
The biggest update is the handle material/construction, but to be honest the rubbery parts ale only a little softer/grippier compared to the plastic so the difference is really minor and far from ground breaking.
Also the blade shape is different and for me not very good. Maybe I'm too used to my orange Mora Bushcraft but the blade really feels shorty and stubby and I really miss the point. Also the extra width doesn't help with anything and actually gets in the way, for example with fire steel when you can't see the tinder.
Overall not a bad blade and still feels solid, but it's more suitable for hacking/abuse than whittling/camp chores.

And now the biggest issue, can you see what is wrong apart from the usuall spine finish?

Maybe I just received a bad one. But apart from this issue in my opinion they decided to rethink the design and they wasted their time. Nothing to see here.

 

[Macaroon]

Very poor show, by the sounds of that; a great shame as they're otherwise a good company.

 

[BigMonster]

I know it's a tool but how can you let something like this slip through QC??

 

[John Fenna]

Wow - that is not good!

 

[BigMonster]

The more I handle it the more it stings me. Please read the description (and check second picture):
"The blade is Swedish stainless steel with a back spine specially designed to accommodate a fire steel. "

It's not a bug, it's a feature... Probably the asymetric grind is part of the ergonomic design for right handed use.

 

[Toddy]

:/

Did you mean it about that off grind being intentional ?
Right enough I did think that they were machine processed, so wondered how it had been done otherwise.

M

 

[Mesquite]

The more I handle it the more it stings me. Please read the description (and check second picture):
"The blade is Swedish stainless steel with a back spine specially designed to accommodate a fire steel. "

It's not a bug, it's a feature... Probably the asymetric grind is part of the ergonomic design for right handed use.

Have you emailed Mora with those pictures to see what they've got to say?

 

[BigMonster]

:/

Did you mean it about that off grind being intentional ?

M

Yeah, it's so bad I can't help my sarcasm.

@Mesquite

You think I should?

 

[Mesquite]

@Mesquite

You think I should?

Hell yes... with it as bad that I would for sure.

Any company would want to know that quality control wasn't doing it's job properly and be given a chance to rectify it.

Very least I reckon you'd get a new knife out of it.

 

[BigMonster]

Well this one goes back to Heinnie. But you are right, I'll report my results from Mora.

 

[reedx]

I've got the same model and the grind is fine and symmetrical on mine. It didn't come all that sharp but that was easily remedied. As you say Heinnies need to get that one back.

Colin

 

[BigMonster]

Is the spine of your blade as specially designed for fire steel as mine?

Few more pictures to show the biggest problem.

I have tried info@moraofsweden.se but I'm getting "Failed to process message due to a permanent exception with message The Active Directory user wasn't found" reply..
Any ideas?

 

[reedx]

The spine is the same - there are a few Mora models with a similar unfinished spine.
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125177&p=1562720#post1562720

Colin

 

[Mesquite]

I have tried info@moraofsweden.se but I'm getting "Failed to process message due to a permanent exception with message The Active Directory user wasn't found" reply..
Any ideas?

Are you including pictures with the email? If so, it might be rejecting it because of that.

Try an email with a link to this thread for them to look at.

 

[BLAG]

My grind is not even either. Not as bad as that thou

 

[rancid badger]

Given that "HH" are claiming that the spine is " specially designed to accommodate a fire steel." I think I'd be contacting them and asking them in what way is the spine " specially designed to accommodate a fire steel.?"

It clearly isn't and the bevel is, in my opinion, dangerously asymmetric!

Basically, that knife is a piece of junk!

The basic Moras from Clas Ohlsen, that you used to be able to buy for £4.95 each, are way better ground than that, although the spines are just as bad.

Not good enough by anyone's standards!.
[video=youtube;oPWd6V2qub0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPWd6V2qub0&list=UUARh Bu4nV8Sh3TCztVVrwIg&index=4[/video]

To be honest, looking at it from the perspective of someone who works in high speed, high volume manufacturing myself, it looks rather like, for some reason, ( a training session or test run maybe?) there's been a batch of reject blades put through the moulding machine that does the handles. Then instead of the rejects being recycled, they've been allowed through the "net".

Anyone with one of these knives in that sort of state, is due all of the following: Apology from both Mora and HH, money back inc p&p and a new, properly finished and inspected knife.

 

[BigMonster]

I did an email to info@moraofsweden.co.uk - UK distributor with pictures and link to this thread. Well see.
Not a huge tragedy, I'm just shocked it went through QC...

 

[BigMonster]

Well I'm really trying to avoid bashing on Mora but everything goes wrong...
Swedish email is not functional so I have contacted UK distributor on the above address. Here's my email exchange from monday (3 days ago and I havent heard from them since...):

BigMonster:
Hi guys, thought you might want to know about this one.
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=126488
Also please see attached pictures.

Mora:
Dear Mathew
Thank you for the information.
Please can you mail me a contact number and I will call you.
I would be extremely grateful if you could return the knife and we will replace it for you.
[FONT=&amp]Best regards[/FONT]

BigMonster:
That's alright. I'm returning it to the seller so that's not an issue.
I'm a big fan of Mora and I thought you would like to know about this situation.
Regards.

Mora:
[FONT=&amp]Hi Matthew,[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]If you have not sent it back to HH, please just return it to me as this will save time.[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]The other thing is I would like to have a word with you and explain what could have happened..[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]Best regards[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]James [/FONT]

BigMonster:
Well I'm sending it back for a refund so I'll stick with Heinnie.
I only had excellent experience with Mora products so It's really not an issue for me.
But I would be more than happy to copy our conversation/your explanation in to the forum thread. I know folks would be very pleased to see this.
Regards.

Mora:
...


Personaly it's really not a tragedy for me (especially considering the price) but it leaves a bad feeling in the back of my head. What do you think?

 

[Shewie]

Have you given them a contact number for a chat yet?

I'm with Steve, it's probably a QC duffer that's slipped through the net somehow.

Are HH replacing it for you?

 

[BigMonster]

I have send it back for a refund. The balde is too short for me.
And no no number., I's obvious it was a QC issue and there is not much to talk about. I just wanted to give them a chance to throw something in to the thread, they didn't take it.