Er indoors thinks ruffin it is when the toilet & shower blocks are more than 20 yards from the tent flap, so although she enjoys glamping rather than camping the "out in the woods" stuff is strictly taboo. I tried to tempt her to go to Comriecroft a couple of Neerdays ago for the meetup she would only consider it if we hired the fancy ones they've got there with the fires and log pile to hand, even then she thought it would be a bit "primitive"