crusader cup vs zebra billy
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thanks very much guys... I think I have decided that the crusader is out of the runnings... but it has now been replaced by the cheaper alu billy! Think im gonna try a single alu billy and see how I get on. Cheers all
graham why has the my ti mug replaced the crusader mug cos personally the crusaders are brilliant
Hello jonnie,i went back on what i said i would never own and bought a shiny new Zebra billy today,thought i would have a go at making a hobo stove for it.Regards
Darren
Darren
Just a side thought - I sometimes use one of these:
http://www.gelert.com/Products/Ascent_I_Cookset.aspx
its the perfect size for a nalgene type bottle and comes with a lid
I've also got a crusader (or two) which I pretty much only use for boiling water, the little cooker thing is ok I just don't think it nests well enough.
For anything bigger I'd probably take a billy or a trangia.
Just wanted to confirm that this http://www.gelert.com/Products/Ascent_I_Cookset.aspx
fits these very nicely http://www.guyotdesigns.com/Product...8b21f7b3013f44a7.e3eSc3uRax8Te34Pa38Ta38Rc3b0
Available from ;- http://www.surplusandoutdoors.com/s.../quality-gelert-ascent-1-anodised-546318.html
and Halfords http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/..._productId_769157_langId_-1_categoryId_165650
I have the Crusader mug and it's good kit. I'd never leave home without it for either civ or mil stuff (what else are you going to drink out of) - get the plain metal version and not the non-stick one though as the non-stick coating soon flakes off after being bashed around a bit. I love it because it fits inside the 58 bottle, but I don't see the point of getting a lid or a hanger for it, from what I can see they aren't going to fit inside an issue waterbottle pouch very handily and you can't stow the mug with lid attached if it's wrapped around the bottom half of a 58 bottle now can you? Don't worry about a separate plastic mug or burning your chops, just get some tape on the brim and perhaps the handle to avoid that.
I was just going with the Crusader and hexi (often augmented with a Jetboil for easy fast cooking, Crusader was then for drinking only and hexi was a back-up fuel source in case of running out of gas) as I was used to eating boil-in-the-bag rations, MoD supplied. After a trip to the north of Iceland where, (although we weren't out hiking per se for 2 weeks we certainly lived remotely and rurally for that time), our group caught and cooked fish to augment our diet, I realised that any overly-specialised cooking system is not a panacea. I then remembered how in Ecuador we had done the same. Can't really sort out cod or berries in a pint mug or a jetboil very practically can you? Can't really put a jetboil over an open fire to save your gas either.
Now I still take the mug and jetboil/other stove set up (they are great for when you have got ready-to-go, easy-to-prep food like ORP or similar), but also made sure to pack an old West German mess kit (pail and skillet style, like the German ones in WWII war films but from the 1960s instead) in a sidepocket of my bergen. Takes up no room in real terms as you just fill it with other stuff you were going to carry anyway, and it was cheap as chips brand new, no stove needed to be bought either. And while it's not that likely to get used day-in-day-out like the mug and jetboil will be, whenever we get a bit of locally-sourced kill-catch-or-pick-it-yourself scoff next time it's going to come in a lot handier than all that 'hi-speed lo-drag' stuff!
I'm actually in the market for a billycan now too, as an equivalent to the pail & skillet for my civvy kit (trying to keep mil and civ kit separate as much as possible so's I don't look like a squaddie doing civvy stuff and so my kit is ready to go with no fuss for mil stuff) - where's the best place to get a 'Zebra', does the little dish inset come in handy, and are they recommended?
I was just going with the Crusader and hexi (often augmented with a Jetboil for easy fast cooking, Crusader was then for drinking only and hexi was a back-up fuel source in case of running out of gas) as I was used to eating boil-in-the-bag rations, MoD supplied. After a trip to the north of Iceland where, (although we weren't out hiking per se for 2 weeks we certainly lived remotely and rurally for that time), our group caught and cooked fish to augment our diet, I realised that any overly-specialised cooking system is not a panacea. I then remembered how in Ecuador we had done the same. Can't really sort out cod or berries in a pint mug or a jetboil very practically can you? Can't really put a jetboil over an open fire to save your gas either.
Now I still take the mug and jetboil/other stove set up (they are great for when you have got ready-to-go, easy-to-prep food like ORP or similar), but also made sure to pack an old West German mess kit (pail and skillet style, like the German ones in WWII war films but from the 1960s instead) in a sidepocket of my bergen. Takes up no room in real terms as you just fill it with other stuff you were going to carry anyway, and it was cheap as chips brand new, no stove needed to be bought either. And while it's not that likely to get used day-in-day-out like the mug and jetboil will be, whenever we get a bit of locally-sourced kill-catch-or-pick-it-yourself scoff next time it's going to come in a lot handier than all that 'hi-speed lo-drag' stuff!
I'm actually in the market for a billycan now too, as an equivalent to the pail & skillet for my civvy kit (trying to keep mil and civ kit separate as much as possible so's I don't look like a squaddie doing civvy stuff and so my kit is ready to go with no fuss for mil stuff) - where's the best place to get a 'Zebra', does the little dish inset come in handy, and are they recommended?
I like both and have both in my bag for my week away week after next. If I was trying to cut down on weight I'd ditch the Zebra first though. It's an excellent bit of kit and I love it but the mug is smaller (fit's under my water bottle), lighter and more versatile.
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