Crusader cup fail

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bushytoo

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Feb 15, 2012
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Bushytoo,

Did you force the handles back? How easily did they come off. It's a difficult one (speaking as an ex retailer) but I'm wondering how well it was spot welded on. Have had whole batches of pans where the handles have popped of and I deemed them unsafe as someone could get scalded. Just something to think about.

Cheers,
GB.

I'd have to say I forced them back, I was trying to get the handles to fit more snugly around the cup and then the plate just flew off. Like I say I consider it my own fault but I do think it broke easier than I expected it to or perhaps I don't know my own strength.
 

bushytoo

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Feb 15, 2012
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I've rarely seen Crusader mugs selling for less than £15 ......sure it's not a cheap copy ?

If you don't want to send it back but wish to try & repair it I reckon rivets would be the best solution.

BCB cup, got the name on it and everything, ebay is a source for great bargains. Haven't got the tools, time or knowhow for rivets so I'm hoping JB weld does the job.
 

Goatboy

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I'd have to say I forced them back, I was trying to get the handles to fit more snugly around the cup and then the plate just flew off. Like I say I consider it my own fault but I do think it broke easier than I expected it to or perhaps I don't know my own strength.

Were you making spinach soup?
 

Mesquite

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I'd have to say I forced them back, I was trying to get the handles to fit more snugly around the cup and then the plate just flew off. Like I say I consider it my own fault but I do think it broke easier than I expected it to or perhaps I don't know my own strength.

Sounds like duff welds and not your fault at all.
 

Shewie

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I did a similar thing on my Eagle kettle, popped one side of a handle straight off. I tried JB which I use on my alky stoves but it didn't hold for long, I don't think it likes stainless on stainless too much. I need to clean it up and have another go though I reckon.
 

benp1

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I swear I was looking into JB weld a little while ago to fix a bracket on a titanium pot. When I was searching for information on it there was differing feedback about it, but mostly it said it wouldn't work if you stick it in the embers
 

BillyBlade

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I've never been lucky with JB weld. I don't think its quite the product the makers make it out to be.

Still, might just be my bad luck or ineptitude. Good luck with it.
 

rik_uk3

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To be honest the OP said its pretty much his fault so I'd get a new one when he can and not rely on the likes of JB for a long term solution. I'd say leave the teflon ones alone, the coating flakes off easily and ends up in your food.
 

Goatboy

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JB weld does work on some stuff, but I found it had a high fail rate. Don't think it'd work on the cup in the heat. The expansion rate difference on a cold day then put over a flame would just make it fall off I fear.
GB.
 

bushytoo

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You'll probably end up paying more trying to repair the faulty mug than you would just buying a new one.......& without any guarantee of success either.

To be honest the OP said its pretty much his fault so I'd get a new one when he can and not rely on the likes of JB for a long term solution. I'd say leave the teflon ones alone, the coating flakes off easily and ends up in your food.

When I come back from France I will get a new one probably the army issue one, hopefully my heavy nato cover will still fit the army one. I won't be throwing away it away though. I've just used it today to thermo cook some pasta and I didn't need to use the handles.
 

ged

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I think there's enough doubt about epoxies in general and JB Weld in particular to make it too much of a risk for the upcoming trip. You don't want to finish up in a foreign hospital burns unit on your holiday. I could TIG weld it for you if there was tme but if you're going away on Wednesday that 's a non starter. I wouldn't trust the markings on it to mean that it's a genuine item. There are loads of Chinese fakes of all sorts of stuff on eBay. It could be just bad luck, buy knowing the price you paid it sounds a bit fishy to me.
 

bushytoo

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I think there's enough doubt about epoxies in general and JB Weld in particular to make it too much of a risk for the upcoming trip. You don't want to finish up in a foreign hospital burns unit on your holiday. I could TIG weld it for you if there was tme but if you're going away on Wednesday that 's a non starter. I wouldn't trust the markings on it to mean that it's a genuine item. There are loads of Chinese fakes of all sorts of stuff on eBay. It could be just bad luck, buy knowing the price you paid it sounds a bit fishy to me.

Thanks for the offer but if anything, I probably will use gloves to pick up the cup.
 
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If you know a Sheetmetal shop locally, i`m sure they would spotweld it back together for the price of a pint.
If you don`t know anyone locally, you could pm me when your back.
Good luck.
 

santaman2000

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If you know a Sheetmetal shop locally, i`m sure they would spotweld it back together for the price of a pint.
If you don`t know anyone locally, you could pm me when your back.
Good luck.

I thought of that too. But what would spot welding do to the teflon?
 

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