Biddlesby,Biddlesby said:Should they really be culled? It seems to me just evolution. Along the lines of culling grey squirrels, perhaps the parliment should consider culling all humans - we've done more than our share of damage to the environment.
Nemisis said:Is hunting with a bow illegal in scotland too? I can see many turning to crossbows if this goes ahead specially if they only need the tail to claim the bounty.
Dave.
British Red said:Biddlesby,
Given they were introduced by man, I see 'em as a man made problem. Now if you see man as part of the evolutionary cycle, fair enough, but equally then why re-introduce Red Kites or seas eagles? They lost their foothold through man same as Grey Squirrels gained theres. I guess we either try to fix problems we've caused or accept them and meddle no further. Me I like seeing the kites round here so I vote for fix 'em. I don't think we'll ever wipe them out, but seeing them as anything other than vermin is daft. In fact the rat has more place in our ecosystem.
Red
jamesoconnor said:we shouldn't be looking for a bounty on these animals as we should be eating them!!
well, maybe not me personally....
regards
james
No problem with that, but does that mean you think we shouldn't re-introduce Red Kites for example (since that is another example of further meddling)?Biddlesby said:I see what you are saying, that they were introduced by man. But I always feel we make things worse when we try and correct our mistakes...if we left everything alone it would settle to an equilibrium in the long long run.
stovie said:Can I reintroduce the brachiosaurus...I'd like to use it for getting to work and dropping the kids at school...Now thats what I call a 4X4
British Red said:No problem with that, but does that mean you think we shouldn't re-introduce Red Kites for example (since that is another example of further meddling)?
Red
Hi mate - have a rep point for a nice civilised debate! I know I am playing devils advocate but I do so conscioulsly as I have rarely heard people defend (say) the Colorado beetle or the micro organisms that cause foot and mouth disease. However all of that is "moulding" nature (as of course is taking a course of antibiotics). The truth is the entire English landscape is "man affected".Biddlesby said:I feel that reintroducing Red Kites back into an ecosystem which they were doing perfectly well (bar man) is a different matter to culling a superior species which we introduced. And of course I'm completely for reintroducing the brachiosaurus, just to spice things up a bit.
It's not that I'm completely against a method of control, I'm just saying I don't think culling grey squirrels is really an effective method in the long run. But then again, man will always have an impact on nature and perhaps the damage done trying to rectify this is less than if we ignored the problem.
Ah, but the kites introduced are the European red kite and not the British red kite. Apparently, they couldn't get the Welsh conservationists to part with any of theirs, so they went to the continent. The European one is bigger.Biddlesby said:I feel that reintroducing Red Kites back into an ecosystem which they were doing perfectly well (bar man)