Its late, I'm back from work, I know its not a serious thread but I'm going anyway....
Its an easy one, Ray is great at what he does, Bear is great at what he does. But what they do is DIFFERENT.
And anyone, I do mean anyone , who summits Everest is far more than "just" a showman. In fact, from hereon hows about anyone who wants to slag anyone off first has to equal their achievements.
Want to slag Ray off? Feel free, once you have become known and accepted as the all round bushcraft expert that he has - with similar demand for your time, your books, DVDs, lectures, products, courses, tv programmes ........
Want to slag Bear off? No es problemo. First get accepted into the TA SAS, recover from a broken back, summit Everest, become head of the boy scout movement ( I know, I've got the exact title wrong - sue me)....etc.
Frankly, I'd be well chuffed to be in eithers league in terms of knowledge or experience.
And off to bed.