cheers for the comments everyone, i just used a hack saw a belt sander and a one inch belt sander to make them and sand paper the scales are finished with tru oil. they where annealed in the wood burner. and i made a small forge out of firebrick and a blow torch to harden them and tempered in the oven. i learned all this from youtube videos. it isnt as hard as you would think it'd be. well worth having a go, they are nice strong knifes ideal for camping and bushcraft and are practically free so not worried as much about damaging or losing one