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What's this fish?

Discussion in 'Flora & Fauna' started by Keith_Beef, Oct 16, 2019.

  1. Keith_Beef

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    This photo came up on another forum I frequent, with a call for help in identifying this fish, found washed up on a beach in South Wales..

    [​IMG]

    That's a size 5 boot next to the very dead fish.

    Any ideas what species it might be?
     
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  2. slowworm

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    A picture would help....
     
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    From that, I guess that you don't see it... There is one there, but I've seen this happen in threads from time to time... sometimes I don't see an image, sometimes I see it but others don't.
     
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    Its an invisible fish, yes?
     
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    Kinda reminds me of a Young Ones sketch....what fish?
     
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    Sorry, not I can't see a pic. I just see [ IMG ]

    I don't tend to have problems seeing pics here, even when others say they can't.

    I'll resist the urge to say something fishy is going on....

    Edit to add, I can see what you're linking to when I quote your post. The image to horse & hounds can only be seen if you're logged in there. That's why no one else can see it.
     
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    Not only can I not see a pic, but I “Liked” Nitramburs post and instead of “Unlike” replacing it, I see “Likee”. :D
     
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    Ah, that explains it! Well done.

    I've saved the image to my ImgBB space and updated the link.
     
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    I can see it now. A bit far gone for me to id.
     
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    Picture shows a large rainbow trout. Looks like a farmed fish. Small, rather stunted tail fin. That it wound up on a beach, is a mystery! Its a big fish, probably more than 10lbs when live. While rainbow trout can grow in the sea, same as brown trout (sea-trout), they don't do it naturally in this part of the world. Maybe heavy rain washed it down stream from an inland fish farm and out into the sea?

    I normally sign in to the forum with Google Chrome and with that browser I cannot see the picture. If I paste the link into IE or Edge, picture shows fine, even without being signed into the forum.
     
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    Looks like a rather large rainbow trout
     
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    Thanks for your help.
     
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    There should be a fish farm close to the place where it was found. These poor fish do not swim far, and die soon after escape.
     
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    No reason why it cant be a sea trout?

    (no expert on fish)

    Its rather large for a rainbow.
     
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    Current record Rainbow is 34lb 12ozs
     
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    Sea trout look more like a Salmon ( Salmo Salar). Silvery. Difference mainly in head morphology.
    Rainbow trout is more coloured. Hence the name.

    That 34 lb trout, was it a farmed one? Or placed in a lake?

    It is a Pacific Ocean side fish. Rivers and lakes on the other side of Earth.

    A 34 lb fish sound to be morbidly obese.
     
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    You mean apart from it not being a sea trout? No reason that an Ash can't be an Oak....to someone for whom all trees are just green scenery.
    The huge great pink stripe down the side is kinda a give away, in neon, with bells. :D

    Male rainbow trout, not sure of weight, lets call it 8lb (if I was more of a fisherman I might say 10lb ;) :lmao:)
    [​IMG]DSC03433 by Last Scratch, on Flickr

    Female rainbow trout
    [​IMG]IMG_0417 by Last Scratch, on Flickr

    Brown Trout
    [​IMG]IMG_0901 by Last Scratch, on Flickr

    [​IMG]DSC03414 - Copy by Last Scratch, on Flickr

    Sea trout are brown trout, and even though much more silvery, they do still have the spots, and do not have the big pink stripe!

    As for size, world record rainbow is 48lb. That is a trout born in a farm, but that escaped into a natural lake where it grew on natural food, but since it could not reproduce, all energy went into growing large. I won't say all farmed rainbow in the UK are similarly manipulated, but it is very common.

    The same isn't true for trout in the Twizel area canals in New Zealand. They are not genetically sterile, and grown on their own in the canals, not stocked at great size, but in addition to natural forage, they can pick up food that is washed out of the salmon farms there. They get huge too.
    https://fishingmag.co.nz/south-isla...twizel-canals-fishing-tips-ohau-pukaki-tekapo
     
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    If they are sterile, they must be a hybrid of some sort?
    To eat little, to grow fast.

    I deem those fish unpalatable/uneatable. Fat, fat, fat, no flavor or texture.
    I rather eat something else.
     
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    The New Zealand rainbows owe their genetic heritage to the Lardeau River rainbow trout from the East Kootenay district of southern British Columbia.
    For the most part, the Salmonidae are open growth species in that they don't stop at some contrived upper limit for size.
    It is a fact that if you select the biggest eggs in hatchery spawning, you can grow bigger fish.
    This character appears to persist upon tagging and release.

    We have anandromous rainbow running to 40+ lbs that we call "steelhead" for their predominate color.
    I've never caught any over 22 lbs out of the Morice River system. Bigger further south, I think.
    Also sea-run Cutthroat trout. Kokanee are landlocked sockeye salmon, another west coast gem.
     
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    You also have the genetic modified Salmon. Aqua Advantage Salmon I think it is called?
    Please do not export it....

    I prefer the wild salmon you export to us. Very nice!
     

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