looking for Crooked knife info

[Amon81]

Hope he don't think your the vet, he looks worried

Nope, she is alert because the oven was on and she could smell beef roasting.

 

[Bootstrap Bob]

im a bit paranoid mines a littel big

ATB

Duncan

I'm no expert in sizing these knives but it looks about right to me. Having done a quick mock up of my own (if I was making one) I would be looking for around 60-70mm of straight before the up turn on the blade and an angle between blade and handle of around 140 degrees although this can be accommodated in the handle shape. Hope that's useful, not sure how that lines up with your thinking.

At the end of the day I suppose it really depends on what you want it for. My current requirement is for something to remove lots of material in one swipe but not too much that it becomes difficult to draw and causes my wrist to ache.

 

[topknot]

looks good whats the basic blade length and width im a bit paranoid mines a littel big


ATB

Duncan

Hi, I just got myself some 3mm by 15mm 01 tool steel

Total length: 130 mm
Blade width: 15 mm at base, tapering down to 8 mm at the tip

Hope this help you mate.

Topknot

 

[FGYT]

Hi, I just got myself some 3mm by 15mm 01 tool steel

Total length: 130 mm
Blade width: 15 mm at base, tapering down to 8 mm at the tip

Hope this help you mate.

Topknot

Cheers
not far of then mines 3mm and 20mm to 12mm and 120mm as a flat blade before its bent up easy enough to grind it a little thinner

just finished it
ATB

Duncan

 

[Forest fella]

I've just brought one of Ray's site aswell,And I was wondering does it matter if the Blade is on top or the Bottom of the Handle.

 

[Amon81]

I'd say bottom so you can cut pulling it to yourself. Plus it maeans you can shape the handle to fit your thumb.

 

[tombear]

http://www.poleandpaddle.com/crookedblades.html

has some of the George Wostenholme copies of the Hudson Bay type crooked knives.

I got a couple of unfinished blades off the cutlers a few years back, with out that nasty bevel on the underside and cobbled together a handle myself.

I've just e-mailed the Egginton group to see if they still do them (their sites under construction so no info there) and I'll post what ever details I get off them.

Tom

 

[Tubbyfraser]

Fancy one o' these for paddle making. Impressed by everyone's efforts so far. Like the angle of dangle there Duncan, look sright authentic and usable. If you send it to Robin, would you mind if he fires it onto me for a bash? Promise I won't break it .

 

[robin wood]

So first thing to do is get some one who knows to try this knife and tell me if it works cos i know nothing about using one or much about wood working in general (can do the odd spoon )

I have been having a play with this the last couple of days, good timing because I have been carving bowls. It works pretty well already I suspect probably better than the Svante Djarve one that Ray Mears was using in the recent programs.

There are a few changes that I am hoping may make it work even better which Duncan is going to try out. The difference between a hook or crook knife that has a really sweet action and one which works OK can be just a tiny adjustment in angle and curvature but it makes a huge difference in use. I think it will be worth trying out a few options and am confident that Duncan will get these really sweet.

 

[demographic]

I don't know if its the same kind of thing cos its a long time since I watched a farrier shoe one of our horses when I lived on the farm but they seem very much like a farriers hoof knife to me.

HERES some that Frosts make.

Some others HERE

I'd imagine that there would have been a huge amount of those kicking about in times gone by.
There's also those Loop knives for hooves as well.

 

[Schwert]

Nice work Duncan.

There is a very good tutorial on crooked making by Orien MacDonald over on PaleoPlanet.

http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/forum/viewtopic/id/8530

Orien made my crooked...he used a file.

 

[TeeGeeBee]

Also interested_ depending on price.

TGB

 

[Boston973]

These are not as nice as yours but Mora does make one.

http://www.bensbackwoods.com/servlet/Detail?no=410

Its already on my X-Mas list from the wife.

 

[robin wood]

The frosts hoof knife looks at a glance as if it might work but it is not designed for woodworking. Still at that price it is still tempting. this is it. Have to say I think Bens Backwoods are being slightly misleading calling it a crooked knife, it is designed as and sold by frosts as a hoof knife.

I bought one a couple of years ago and it did not work at all on wood and it now joined that rather large and expensive pile of tools I felt I had to buy and try just to check whether they worked or not.

 

[robin wood]

Nice work Duncan.

There is a very good tutorial on crooked making by Orien MacDonald over on PaleoPlanet.

http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/forum/viewtopic/id/8530

Orien made my crooked...he used a file.

Got there first post 12 and yes they are really nice looking knives, I bet that works well.

 

[Ogri the trog]

The frosts hoof knife looks at a glance as if it might work but it is not designed for woodworking. Still at that price it is still tempting. this is it. Have to say I think Bens Backwoods are being slightly misleading calling it a crooked knife, it is designed as and sold by frosts as a hoof knife.

I bought one a couple of years ago and it did not work at all on wood and it now joined that rather large and expensive pile of tools I felt I had to buy and try just to check whether they worked or not.

Same here,
Bent the tip up a bit more, blunted off the double edge near the tip, reground it, played with various bevel angles, trimmed the handle to a more "traditional" shape, persevered, grunted, struggled - really wish I'd have bought a proper one!

One day!

ATB

Ogri the trog

 

[xavierdoc]

The frosts hoof knife looks at a glance as if it might work but it is not designed for woodworking. Still at that price it is still tempting. this is it. Have to say I think Bens Backwoods are being slightly misleading calling it a crooked knife, it is designed as and sold by frosts as a hoof knife.

I bought one a couple of years ago and it did not work at all on wood and it now joined that rather large and expensive pile of tools I felt I had to buy and try just to check whether they worked or not.

I remember the Hoof knife which was included in the "Great Hook Knife passaround" that you and Nicola organised (thanks!) The Hoof knife didn't perform on wood.

I also remember the handle you had made for a Bo Helgesson blade in the same passaround. It had a thumb rest like these crooked knives and really lent itself to palm-up use.

 

[demographic]

The frosts hoof knife looks at a glance as if it might work but it is not designed for woodworking. Still at that price it is still tempting. this is it. Have to say I think Bens Backwoods are being slightly misleading calling it a crooked knife, it is designed as and sold by frosts as a hoof knife.

I bought one a couple of years ago and it did not work at all on wood and it now joined that rather large and expensive pile of tools I felt I had to buy and try just to check whether they worked or not.

Ahh, cheers.

Its years on end since I watched someone shoe a horse so I can't really remember too well, my mistake.

 

[robin wood]

Well this may seem a bit of a tease but I have just been playing with Duncan's next prototype and it is hugely improved. When these are finished they are going to be a whole lot better than anything that has been available here before. I have already got my order in for 5 for a bowlcarving course I am running in February so you can tell I am impressed. Just a last tweak to the curve and they will be spot on.

 

[Tubbyfraser]

Wow, great news! Very impressed, Robin and Duncan.

Graeme