Need a new knife for whittling...

[martsim73]

Well I thought I'd start a new thread...

I've enjoyed whittling over the years but after reading an old thread on here about the legal implications of carrying a knife, I've come to realise I could have gotten myself into a lot of trouble had I have been stopped for some reason by the Police . My trusty pocket knife (locking blade, 3.5inches) has been removed from my jacket pocket for good and now resides in the tool box in the shed!

So... What knife would be recommended as a replacement? Easy I hear you say.... Well, a few considerations please.

1). One sharp blade only (would consider two if one was for small detailed work).
2). Blade not more than a couple of inches max.
3). Folding blade, no lock and very stable - no side movement. I like nothing better than going for a walk, sitting in the woods and finding a stick to whittle. Not a valid reason to carry a locking blade as it's not for work but for pleasure if the need arose.
4). A comfortable grip. I can be whittling for several hours. Often just creating tinder lol.
5). I don't want to spend a fortune on it either.

Your thoughts and recommendations would be most welcome.... Please don't post how stupid I was or I should have known better etc. I know now I was in the wrong and had I have been questioned, the implications that could have followed. Helpful recommendations are what I'm after... Thank you.

[HillBill]

Something from Queen cutlery would serve you well. D2 steel (good) and quality construction
http://www.moonrakerknives.co.uk/queen.htm

[Samon]

http://www.heinnie.com/Beech-Carbon-Steel/p-0-0-8531/# opinel number 6 with the locking ring removed cheap, razor sharp carbon steel that'll be great for whittling!

http://www.heinnie.com/-UK-Legal-Car...-641-646-4281/ cheap, and handy! the stainles ssteel wont be as good as the carbon on the opinel but it'll still make a nice little knife you can carry around!

[mountainm]

http://www.heinnie.com/product.asp?P_ID=4716
No need to remove the locking ring on this one - it doesn't have one. Opinel No 3.

It is tiny tho'

[Beefy0978]

Check out A. Finlay primitive crafts. He does an excellent set for £99 that I'm hoping to get for my birthday next month.

A-Finlay-primitive-craftS.co.uk

[Wayland]

I like my little joker for a variety of small tasks including whittling.

[Samon]

totally forgot about the joker knives! they come in stainless and carbon, so with that in mind go for one of them!

* check here to see what most of us carry around http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70855!

[martsim73]

Thanks guys... Some nice knives. I do quite like the Joker as the handle looks to be very comfortable. I should have realised (and looked for) a thread on pocket knives. I will browse deeper into the knives you are already using. Thanks again...

Martin

[FGYT]

3). Folding blade, no lock and very stable - no side movement. I like nothing better than going for a walk, sitting in the woods and finding a stick to whittle. Not a valid reason to carry a locking blade as it's not for work but for pleasure if the need arose.
Your thoughts and recommendations would be most welcome.... Please don't post how stupid I was or I should have known better etc. I know now I was in the wrong and had I have been questioned, the implications that could have followed. Helpful recommendations are what I'm after... Thank you.

yes it is a perfectly valid reason as is Bushcrafting
the listed examples in S139 are just that examples and not an exhausted list

http://greenwood-carving.blogspot.co...in-public.html

[Doc]

I like the look of those Jokers too. I nearly bought one, but was tempted by the Enzo PK70 instead. However, at £80 or so, the Enzo doesn't meet your condition 5.

At a meet recently I was shown a Rough Rider pocket knife and was impressed enough to buy one. These are similar to the quality American slipjoints (Case, Queen, great Eastern cutlery etc) in that they are traditional patterns with real bone handles, but being made in China are about 80% cheaper. They are very sharp straight out of the box and feel substantial in the hand. Steel is 440 stainless and I have found edge retention and build quality to be very very good indeed. They really are £50-60 knives for £10-£15. Heinnie stocks a range of them.

[peaks]

What about supporting Brit knife makers and considering something like these?
http://www.premiercutlery.co.uk/ind_...r_pocketknives

http://www.madeinsheffield.com/list_...Type=Penknives

[plastic-ninja]

What about a British classic pocketknife from Sheffield's Trevor Ablett.?
I bought one earlier in the year. 3 good whittling blades a lovely stag handle
and beautifully made by a British master craftsman. Oh and legal carry too.
Cheers , Simon

[Totumpole]

I'll agree with wayland and others in te joker. I have the exact same one as that pictures and it's a perfect little whittler.
The other thing I often carry is a victorinox spartan SAK - 2 blades, and a few other useful bits

[Hammock Hamster]

I have both a rough rider rifleman and an enzo pk70 for my edc and they are both very good.

The enzo is, in my opinion, is is the better knife but if your not looking to spend that much the rough rider is an excellent substitute.
The larger blade is good for most whittling and the smaller one, as you said in the OP, is great for fine detail - not bad at around a tenner.

hamster

[Samon]

I have both a rough rider rifleman and an enzo pk70 for my edc and they are both very good.

The enzo is, in my opinion, is is the better knife but if your not looking to spend that much the rough rider is an excellent substitute.
The larger blade is good for most whittling and the smaller one, as you said in the OP, is great for fine detail - not bad at around a tenner.

hamster

would you comapre the rough rider in build quality to a wenger, victorinox?? never handled one so i'm curious..

[Osprey]

Martin, I would agree with what FGYT said in post 9, bushcraft activities such as whittling would be a valid reason to carry a locking pocket knife.

[Mick w.]

I bought a Rough Rider Whittler for - guess what? - whittling, and was a bit disappointed in it to be honest; it wasn't very sharp, and it's blades all have a convex profile so I struggle to get much of an edge on it.
It's probably just inexperienced old' me, but I'm back with my Scandinavia ground mora at the minute.

[spiritwalker]

my might has the rough rider rifleman 6 and its very sharp and tidy knife for about £15, personally i have never had a reason to ditch my SAK ranger but i do have my eye on one of these jokers in this particular flavour

http://www.casstrom.co.uk/epages/Cas.../Products/NA74

[luckylee]

Enzo pk70, I neve thought it would replace my ukpk, but it has and not left my pocket in 6 months, and can't see it ever leaving my pocket, I have a lot if folding knifes a lot of the fallknivens, the legal carry Ba done not legal carry, and many others but the pk70 is just great I went for the Scandi grind, for this as its great for food prep and whittling as most of my fixed blades are convex, and I'm happy withn that.
i think it's worth the money they ask, a great steel s30v holds a great edge, and easy to maintain, no worries about rust, just a great knife.

[martsim73]

Martin, I would agree with what FGYT said in post 9, bushcraft activities such as whittling would be a valid reason to carry a locking pocket knife.

Doug, I'm sure if I was actually taking part in an activity at the time of being questioned this would be correct. However, I think if the posts are correct from those more qualified to discuss this issue in a thread directly linked to knife legalities in the UK, I would be in trouble just having it on my person when walking about in normal relaxed day to day business with no intention of picking up a stick to whittle,etc at that time. Not that I would be stopped and searched as I never have been, but hypothetically if it happened....Well?

We have here totally wondered of thread/topic and I'm not looking to start up new discussion here on what could be seen by some as a subject of great debate. I trust all interested might wish to read the previous threads related to UK knife law... I found it extremely interesting and eye opening. It also made me realise I was carrying round a knife that in the eyes of the law could have landed me in a lot of trouble no matter how honest and law abiding I may be.

Moderators... If this is deemed an inappropriate response please delete as I'm not wanting to start any form of debate on this topic as it has been clearly discussed quite heatedly else where and closed down.

Thank you for all your knife recommendations folks.... It seems I have many options open to me to follow up. Thank you all for your contributions

Martin

[richardww]

i just bought a vitorinox pocket pal for under £10, was recomended
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...ls_o00_s00_i00

[FGYT]

Doug, I'm sure if I was actually taking part in an activity at the time of being questioned this would be correct. However, I think if the posts are correct from those more qualified to discuss this issue in a thread directly linked to knife legalities in the UK, I would be in trouble just having it on my person when walking about in normal relaxed day to day business with no intention of picking up a stick to whittle,etc at that time. Not that I would be stopped and searched as I never have been, but hypothetically if it happened....Well?

We have here totally wondered of thread/topic and I'm not looking to start up new discussion here on what could be seen by some as a subject of great debate. I trust all interested might wish to read the previous threads related to UK knife law... I found it extremely interesting and eye opening. It also made me realise I was carrying round a knife that in the eyes of the law could have landed me in a lot of trouble no matter how honest and law abiding I may be.

Moderators... If this is deemed an inappropriate response please delete as I'm not wanting to start any form of debate on this topic as it has been clearly discussed quite heatedly else where and closed down.

Thank you for all your knife recommendations folks.... It seems I have many options open to me to follow up. Thank you all for your contributions

Martin

Yes you would have to be intending to go and whittle not just carrying just in case you fancy it

but if you were defiantly going to the woods for a walk and pretty much you where hoping to sit by a tree and carve a stick. Then you would have good reason you could even take a fixed knife etc

was mainly clarification the mistaken view your OP had that pleasure was not a valid reason to have and use a locking or fixed blade.

ATB

Duncan

[southey]

Any one with any real leagal qualifications able to state that" bushcraft" is a lugit reason to carry anything other than a sub3" folder? If not then its just down to your own risk, a risk that many including myself take, but I think its wrong to assume that its a pukka reason and will be fine if challenged, but of course all things are relative, I would suggest a small fixed blade for any woodwork. But that's only my view.

[Hammock Hamster]

would you comapre the rough rider in build quality to a wenger, victorinox?? never handled one so i'm curious..

Hi Samon, I've had the rough rider about 6 months and it's a well built, solid knife.
Mine arrived shaving sharp out the box and haven't yet needed to sharpen it.

I don't have a great deal of experience with SAK's/victorinox as I never really got on with them in the past though I am pretty sure at least one of the ones I used was a cheap copy which is probably why I was put off.


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[Wayland]

Any one with any real leagal qualifications able to state that" bushcraft" is a lugit reason to carry anything other than a sub3" folder? If not then its just down to your own risk, a risk that many including myself take, but I think its wrong to assume that its a pukka reason and will be fine if challenged, but of course all things are relative, I would suggest a small fixed blade for any woodwork. But that's only my view.

As with all such matters it all depends on the situation and the copper you are dealing with.

As you say it would be foolish to believe that "Bushcraft" would be taken as a carte blanche to carry anything you like and unless it is actually your "trade" it would be open to interpretation.
This is a huge can of worms and as the OP has politely asked us to keep to the original topic perhaps people that want to discuss such matters again, ad infinitum, could start another thread.