perhaps extend the originally planned leaving date to later when you are fully equipped?
good on no drinking smoking drugging anymore.
As for comments they weren't just mates and it was an example of blending in more. i find best way of dealing with comments becoming tiring is to leave
Only the Wilderness is pure truth
Vapulus semita es pro vapulus men
The 45 is great, I've had one for years and it has been the most comfortable pack I've ever used for extended yomps with heavy loads. With and without side pockets. I've added a larger shoulder pack to teh fron for longer treks. Go for it.
As for the warbelt, you should contact Lucius Fox as he can customise and incorporate almost anything into the design which won't stand out when walking through dodgy neighbourhoods. I think he may be a member on here, or it may be another forum. His main client recently retired so he may be up to knocking something up for you.
Last edited by JonathanD; 08-08-2012 at 21:02.
Yeah maybe a custom leatherbelt is what I require, will be better wearing, and wont be as tall.
I didnt know you could add another pack to the front.
I think the combination of 'War Belt' and a 'cut down' Sabre 45 is a perfect combination. I'm glad your not doing Drugs anymore.
Ka tū te ihiihi Ka tū te wanawana Ki runga ki te rangi e tū iho nei, tū iho nei, hī!
Usually pouches would be fine behind, but with a 45 litre hanging over its mandatory for pouches on the front and sides for space and weight balance.
But if the integrity of the pack is ruined by cutting of the karrimor belt system, then maybe webbing can be stitched to the packs belt system to make it all. in 1. thatll save weight from belt suspenders, the belt suspenders I assumed would be good because then the warbelt doesnt restrict blood flow through my body from being done up too tight.
But the idea was so I can ditch my pack somnewhere safe, where I will camp the night, and be left with pouches of gear while I look around or fish, etc.
Im trying to fit the most reason as I can into every thing I take. Be more mathmatically sound that way.
Last edited by multi; 08-08-2012 at 20:36.
Ok firstly I will say I am not in any way an accomplished bushcrafter especially since discovering this forum where there are people with a wealth of experience who are friendly and offer free advice, that said I have done some hiking in my time.
Apart from trips in and around the UK I spent 6 days hiking through the Jungle of Mexico (not as extreme as it sounds... it was a guided trip along established trails with camp points on route) still hard work but great adventure.
When I was much younger than I am now (jeese that sounds bad I am only 39) I did something not as extreme as you are planning but I grabbed my rucksack packed my camping gear and hiked/hitchhiked from Berkshire to Southern France and back with a mate so I do know a bit about getting up in the morning packing up and carrying everything with you on your back for days on end... I would say some of the best advice you have received here is don't just buy something on line because someone says its good.. If you look at most comments they say "I like it" or "I don't" not go buy it.
That is because everybody is different and all our body shapes differ. What one person finds comfy another finds annoying (for instance I don't like "war belts" I find they irritate me with a pack and can become quite sore after a while, just my preference)..
Anyway I digress the best advice is don't just buy something on-line.. Go try it on (you can always find an online deal when you know what suits you). You are going a long way and wearing something that is comfy is so important... I cannot stress that enough! There is a reason things hurt.. They are not suited for you, not a problem over 3,4 or 5 days but day after day they will start to put you at risk of injury and you seem pretty focused on this so do it right and don't end up coming home after 3 days because you've damaged yourself!
In sizing your pack take the most you can carry comfortably and plan you route stops and rests accordingly based around that. You have a long way to go and once you start adding washing gear, clothes... OS maps etc (you might not need maps in leafy Hampshire or Kent but you sure as hell will when you hit Northern Scotland or the national Parks in Wales) the weight and size builds quick.
I think also you will find you need more than 100quid too.. With the distance you are planning on you will need a few sets of new boots along the way (good boots make the difference between pleasure and utter misery... boy I learnt that the hard way! lol).
I am not criticizing your idea I think its good you have such a sense of adventure but you really need to plan this carefully (read the link someone posted earlier and the pre work that guy did) its not about gathering all the gear and off you go safe as houses, you need to work out if its the right stuff for you first and do you have all the skills you need! reading OS maps is only easy if you know how to do it... at night ... with a torch ... in the pouring rain!
If i were you I'd do a few test runs first ... pack up everything and walk your planned amount of miles, catch your dinner set camp have a wash sleep wake-up and repeat for 3 or 4 days, you will soon get an idea of what work what doesn't, what you need and whats excess weight plus those things you have forgotten (and you will forget something)! lol
There are people on here who know way more than me about kit, skills and prep you may need.. the above its just my experience from my somewhat limited adventures!
Last edited by Joel_m; 08-08-2012 at 20:56.
I think cracking 20kg worth of dumbell weights in the pack for a few 10 mile walks would get me a rough idea of how the pack would feel, an gain an u derstanding of any pain I may get untill accustomed, the problkems that ppl are expressing the Several day later discomfort, this discomfort could be as with any pack, maybe the bodys irritation that it needs to adapt to.
So even trying out a pack instore wont help me in anyway.
The only thing thatll help, is taking backup funds, although them rugged river canvas bags look like theyll never irritate ,other than leather shoulder straps,may need padding.
Trying it in store will stop you picking a pack that really doesn't suits you.. other than that you are right you need to try actively using it.
The "several days later pain" is what I was on about with the trial run if you plan (as I read) to walk 30miles a day then walk 30 not 10 with full actual load and kit, sleep in tent and repeat... trust me you will learn a lot from this and your trip will be way more enjoyable a a result! Its only 4 or 5 days out of your life!
Yeah I could do, but I think im planned financially for getting all? the nescessary items by the time I would prefer to leave. So I cant really do any trekking prior, camping I cant do either, as I wont have the items needed. Next month ill have all cooking gear sorted. All water puri, all blades, all packs, and maybe a tarp and tent, and then ofcourse smaller items.
Last edited by multi; 08-08-2012 at 21:59.
It might even be worth postponing the trek to the same time next year, so you can try different kit and learn some skills you're going to need.
This all sounds a bit rushed.
Last edited by multi; 08-08-2012 at 22:15.
Back to the point of the thread. You can fit maxpedition pouches to the waist belt on my cheap regatta 65l theres a sort of Molle thing, you probably could on most packs.
You're not on a gap year are you?
Theres no way they send a pack off the production line without testing them is there? what if people buy it then store it a year?
Its 115 gbp if it suffers manufacturer fault on me ill send a little surprise back to the companys involved if I cant compensate or sue etc, I wont tolerate that sort of monopoly on me, no one should
Last edited by southey; 08-08-2012 at 22:37.
It should all be zero tolerance from the consumer.
A messed up society if you got to check what you buy.. shouts 'youre being used to me', and shouts 'by our products we will bodge for youre' displeasure.
Sounds like we need a civil war to ensure customer satisfaction for human rights against the capitalisms.
You want your life depending on this item, well its probably faulty but as a company we made som e money from the interest of your money sitting in our oversized bank account, oh and the call to us cost you too..
Last edited by multi; 08-08-2012 at 22:40.
I thought this guy was serious for a bit then. Just looked at his other posts. Seems we have a comic on the forum, or our very own mall ninja. Nice one, you had me drawn in for a second
Seems my Lucius Fox reference was more apt than I thought. He will sell you all the hi tech equipment you need. I recommend the Tumbler for harsh city environs.
Last edited by JonathanD; 08-08-2012 at 22:40.
That's it, I've had enough
See you later multi