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    Hi just windering the best stove etc for cooking fish and or rabbit or bird for long treks, everyday use. approx 80- hopefully 120 days of consecutive use , so a brand thats hard wearing andlong lasting and lightweight. Or maybe 2 different tools, maybe a type of jetboil etc
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    Where are you going for the trek? This could affect available fuels...

    What altitude are you walking at? This affects fuel performance...


    Stoves are a personal choice...what one loves, the next hates.

    Trangia are self contained and hard wearing...get a gas conversion and you have the best of all worlds.

    If in an area of iffy fuel availability, then it has to be a multi fuel.

    I wouldn't consider the jetfoil unless you only cook simple, boiled, food. It is a one trick pony unless you buy the adapter and frying pan.

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    A jet boil is only really good for heating water/wet meals and certainly not meant as a stand alone all purpose expedition stove
    I think you might be best with a combination of a woodburning stove and a meths stove

    You have plenty of options ranging from Ti versions of honey stove coupled with a Trangia burner-very nice indeed but pricey

    http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/pr...6.asp?PageID=0

    You can get much cheaper woodburners of course and you could make a hobo stove



    but for ease of use and robustness not to mention VFM I would get a Swedish army Trangia stove

    http://www.factsurplus.co.uk/product/57

    I have cooked rabbit and fish in one and a lot more beside


    You can use the base unit as a woodburner but I have not done that as I have just used a fire-the hook is for hanging the big pot over a fire

    Fuel re stock will be your problem over 80-120 days I would guess
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    i don't think i'd be looking towards any variety of camping stove to cook game, if you already have permission to hunt/trap/fish/camp for 80-120 nights then surely it can't be difficult getting that permission extended to lighting a cooking fire.

    what kind of stove do you usually use to cook your game on?
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    Ive never used any backpacking cooking equiptment before =p

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    Quote Originally Posted by multi View Post
    Hi just windering the best stove etc for cooking fish and or rabbit or bird for long treks, everyday use. approx 80- hopefully 120 days of consecutive use , so a brand thats hard wearing andlong lasting and lightweight. Or maybe 2 different tools, maybe a type of jetboil etc
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    You mentioned on an earlier thread that you plan to walk around the UK coastline, is that still the plan? A fire on the beach may be all you need to cook some shellfish and a simple cheap camping gaz stove will keep you in coffees, teas, pasta etc. Easy to pick up canisters too.

    Is you plan to attempt to trap, hunt and fish on this trip? Catching rabbits and other game is a tricky business when you are sat in one area, much harder if you are on the move.

    Hopefully you are aware of the laws which cover hunting, trapping and fishing, if indeed the coastal walk is still your plan?
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    Jetboils are just water boilers, not great in the winter either due to design restrictions. Swedish Army alcohol sets are heavy and sloooow and really your stuck with the two pans you get with it. If your budget can stretch to it go for a Primus Omnifuel, uses paraffin, gas or Coleman fuel, petrol at a push. Very high heat output and its simmers very well.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000LMC4U..._df_B000LMC4U6

    One of these turns it into a Jetboil
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1207134290...84.m1423.l2649 but in truth is not needed with this stoves performance anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandbender View Post
    You mentioned on an earlier thread that you plan to walk around the UK coastline, is that still the plan? A fire on the beach may be all you need to cook some shellfish and a simple cheap camping gaz stove will keep you in coffees, teas, pasta etc. Easy to pick up canisters too.

    Is you plan to attempt to trap, hunt and fish on this trip? Catching rabbits and other game is a tricky business when you are sat in one area, much harder if you are on the move.

    Hopefully you are aware of the laws which cover hunting, trapping and fishing, if indeed the coastal walk is still your plan?
    Yeah, the snaring is part of the survival pouch im putting together, the survival pouch is not part of the trekking gear, its for desperate measures,
    fishing river food I could barely do even in survival measures, not really keen on the taste of mud, ill disoriantate at some point and have to.

    But I need the gear. As lighweight and prefer as compact as possible, ill disoriantate at some point and have to.

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    Another vote for the Swedish Primus Omnifuel for what you want to do. I have the standard and the Ti version. The Ti is incredibly light for what it can do. Both'll simmer perfectly very easily as it has two valves on the fuel line. You really can cook properly on them.

    I'm using it along with an Ikea hobo stove to enable cooking on wood fuel too, but if I was following coastline, I'd junk the hobo and just have a driftwood fire.

    Like Rik, I'd recommend the Primus pots. The non-stick coating on them is very good quality.

    I have the Trangia 27 system with the Omnifuel mounted inside but I don't think its worth the extra bulk and weight in the UK for most uses outside of winter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rik_uk3 View Post
    Jetboils are just water boilers, not great in the winter either due to design restrictions. Swedish Army alcohol sets are heavy and sloooow and really your stuck with the two pans you get with it. If your budget can stretch to it go for a Primus Omnifuel, uses paraffin, gas or Coleman fuel, petrol at a push. Very high heat output and its simmers very well.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000LMC4U..._df_B000LMC4U6

    One of these turns it into a Jetboil
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1207134290...84.m1423.l2649 but in truth is not needed with this stoves performance anyway.

    That omnifuel seems a descent item, I intend to spend a maximum of £350 on cooking gear for my trip, but would always prefer something thatll last the trip and then continue using it for treks afterwards

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    Quote Originally Posted by multi View Post
    I intend to spend a maximum of £350 on cooking gear for my trip
    Christ! I don't have £350 worth of furniture let alone cooking gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by multi View Post
    That omnifuel seems a descent item, I intend to spend a maximum of £350 on cooking gear for my trip, but would always prefer something thatll last the trip and then continue using it for treks afterwards
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    I guess you could steam a fish over a jet boil. Not sure if steamed rabbit would be good though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by multi View Post
    That omnifuel seems a descent item, I intend to spend a maximum of £350 on cooking gear for my trip, but would always prefer something thatll last the trip and then continue using it for treks afterwards
    The Omni will outlive you. The pots with heat exchangers to make a difference, you could easily save 25% on fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainm View Post
    I guess you could steam a fish over a jet boil. Not sure if steamed rabbit would be good though.
    I think ill make a miss on the jetboil, the jetboil sounds awesome to have around camp though

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    Quote Originally Posted by multi View Post
    I think ill make a miss on the jetboil, the jetboil sounds awesome to have around camp though
    If you have the Omni you are gaining nothing buying a JB to be honest.

    Re: cooking fish, a frying pan is ideal, you can fry, poach etc. Forget cast iron, far to heavy look at the Tefal 'Red Spot' non stick pans, they are superb. You can always remove the handle and make mods if a handle is an issue.
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    for that kind of grub id just go for a fire bowl and grilliput take a crusader cup to sit on top to brew up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushwhacker View Post
    Christ! I don't have £350 worth of furniture let alone cooking gear.
    Thats a lot of furniture lol and a very big camp cooking budget

    with that budget you gotta go Titanium right to the spork and probably still have some change
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    To cook fish properly you need a deep fat fryer, any other method is just a waste of good fish (and batter).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imagedude View Post
    To cook fish properly you need a deep fat fryer, any other method is just a waste of good fish (and batter).
    Do you do deep fried battered Mars bars for afters Rob

    On a serious note about deep frying, something I've only seen in brum and the black country is deep fried mushy pea fritters......they are yummy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rik_uk3 View Post
    Do you do deep fried battered Mars bars for afters Rob

    ..they are yummy.
    Double decker Mars Bar/Snicker combos are my deep fried favorite especially when served with a molten Star Bar and ice cream dip.
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    deep fried chocky bars sound grim peas though are a winner as is deep fried battered haggis
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    You chaps ever made any of those fried concoctions in the bush?

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    Not yet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by multi View Post
    I intend to spend a maximum of £350 on cooking gear for my trip,
    I was going to joke that you must be taking several stoves ...... but then I saw from your other threads that you intend to take at least 6 knives and several torches so who knows
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    Quote Originally Posted by brambles View Post
    I was going to joke that you must be taking several stoves ...... but then I saw from your other threads that you intend to take at least 6 knives and several torches so who knows
    Im getting the omni ti, and probably a simple alchaol stove.

    The omni ill try to only use the canister fuel with in emergency.

    Shame most beaches dont tolerate bbqs or fires of anykind
    Last edited by multi; 30-07-2012 at 22:25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redandshane View Post
    Thats a lot of furniture lol and a very big camp cooking budget

    with that budget you gotta go Titanium right to the spork and probably still have some change
    Haha, I mean my real furniture not hobby furniture.
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