DD Hammocks - Frontline Vs Travel

[JamieA]

Hi Guys,

Looking to buy a hammock, have narrowed it down to either the DD Frontline or Travel. I like the idea of being able to peg the travel out and use as a bivvi but have heard that the fabric is not as breathable as the frontline. I'm abit of a sweater so not sure if the Travel material will be comfortable and am happy enough to carry an extra groundsheet if i need to. Any thoughts that can help would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Jamie

[mountainm]

I have the travel. I regret not getting the frontline for the very reasons you state.

[JamieA]

Thats +1 for the Frontline then. :-)

[mountainm]

To be honest, I then bought a tenth wonder grey hornet...

But out of the 2 DDs, yes.

[Big Stu 12]

I have the Travel, but don't find condensation a problem, have been using it since Jan this year, I like the Idea of having a waterproof base as you can ground dwell in it if required.

[JamieA]

Have read that the TW Hornet is both breathable and water proof? How does it hold up on the ground?

[mountainm]

Have read that the TW Hornet is both breathable and water proof? How does it hold up on the ground?

The new one comes with a completely water proof under hammock.
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He usually has them out in other colours but the orange one is cheap!

If it was me I'd go for the wide one. Comfier. Ok to use on the ground unless wet, but this doesn't come with the base layer. The material is waterproof to a degree, but I wouldn't rely on it on a wet floor.

[Chiseller]

I haven't had condensation in my travel. But one of the pockets has just ripped far too easily

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[JamieA]

Do they do a wide on with double zips? Can't seem to find it.

[mountainm]

They will be making one soon. But the double zips are overrated. In practice I get in and out of one side.

[JamieA]

Just thinking to take up the net and use as a seat. Think i'll try the DD Travel then if I become a sweaty betty i'll put it on here and try something else. One more question soz guys, Normal tarp or XL?

[mountainm]

Hold your horses and get some more opinions - the travel feels sticky on the skin. The frontline is softer and nicer.

[JamieA]

Just ordered the Frontline and will grab a groundsheet tomorrow, anyone know the pegged out on ground size?

[mountainm]

Just ordered the Frontline and will grab a groundsheet tomorrow, anyone know the pegged out on ground size?

If you got the XL tarp you may be able to double it under to be both groundsheet and fly?

[Bucephalas]

I use bothe the frontline and the travel.
Having used both on enough occasions and for some time I prefer the travel for winter use and the frontline for summer.
I have had condensation in the mid-layer of the travel (where I used a silvered foam mat as underlay) but not in the sleeping compartment. It also offers better protection from the cold wind in the winter.
Whilst I haven't measured it, I'm sure the travel has a little more material on the width and feels more comfy to me.

One night I hung between a couple of trees that were a little too close and attached the webbing directly to the tree without attaching some 550 or similar as a drip stop. It rained during the night and my hammock filled with water and I floated for a while!
Not the fault of the hammock you understand!

I also have the Xl tarp and 3x3 and camo. The Xl is superb and gives you lots of extra options such as fashioning doors at either end or hanging your hammock higher whilst having the tarp fully cover it.

If you intend to be a fair weather hanger and stay in the arm chair in winter, then go for the Frontline; otherwise the travel. You could use a ground sheet with the Frontline but you wouldn't get the waterproof bath tube protection.

[JamieA]

Thanks for that Bucephalas, I don't ming abit of Spring to Autumn but think Winter is out (i like my bed too much in the cold LOL) so am glad that i ordered the Frontline. Think I'll go with you both on the XL Tarp as this seems to give me more options and might mean i don't have to carry an extra groud sheet just is case. Thanks for all your help with this guys, I'm new to the wild camping thing but it's something i've always been curious about so it's nice to know that there are others out there willing to help out us Noobs.

Cheers Again

[MickeS]

I have the Travel and get quite some condensation, so far the night temps have ranged from -3C to +10C. I often just sleep on a CCF pad, under a UKhammocks overfilled summer topquilt. Where the quilt traps body heat against the hammock is where condensation starts to form - but by using more CCFs or a wool blanket I can minimize the 'wet problem' Otherwise the Travel is nice. In my 2-layer TW UL hammock I have not had any problems with condensation, but that one isn't as windproof as the Travel.
I also have a XL tarp that we can hang 2 hammocks under with room to spare.

[JamieA]

DD Frontline & XL Tarp on way :-) Roll on the weekend (hopefully dry down in not so sunny South Wales)

[Bucephalas]

Thanks for that Bucephalas, I don't ming abit of Spring to Autumn but think Winter is out (i like my bed too much in the cold LOL) so am glad that i ordered the Frontline. Think I'll go with you both on the XL Tarp as this seems to give me more options and might mean i don't have to carry an extra groud sheet just is case. Thanks for all your help with this guys, I'm new to the wild camping thing but it's something i've always been curious about so it's nice to know that there are others out there willing to help out us Noobs.

Cheers Again

Welcome to the hangers club!
You're only regret will be noring things like work getting in the way of a night or two out.

[JamieA]

Think thats happening already LOL, glad i ordered the Tarp as it's just started to P**s down down here, although can't wait to lay in hammock under tarp listening to the rain hitting it, so relaxing. Even contemplating joining you guys for a few days on the moot (boss approval permitting) as it's only about 10 miles from my house.

[JamieA]

DD Hammocks Customer Service is absolutely awesome, had to check on my Hammock order, order Tarp and sort out next day. Every email has been answered quickly and fully. Don't get that often.

[spandit]

Good to hear. I've just bought & taken delivery of the Tenth Wonder Hornet (180 wide model) - excellent customer service too

[widu13]

+1 for suffering with condensation with my Travel. Mine was the first of the models to have a waterproof base. 2010?

[JamieA]

Hammock & XL Tarp Arrived this morn, booked in at Lone Wolf (glyn-y-mul-farm) on Monday for a trial run, just hope it don't p**s down now.

Thanks again for all the help guys.

[lostplanet]

Howd it go?

[Big Stu 12]

I ve just got a Front line 2012 model, after un packing it its def a better one then my Travel, the material is so much softer then the Travel I have, and of cause the rods for the net with the little pockets are great as well, but I mde some rods for my Travel just may now mod the pockets on to it,

Still to have a night in the travel so will let you know.

[JamieA]

Have setup the hammock a few times and apart from the moz net being a bit close when hanging from my sls but should be a lot better hanging from tarp ridge line it is mega comfortable. Looking forward to getting time to actually get out and sleep in it. Def glad went for the frontline though as cant see me using it as a bivi.


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[lostplanet]

Cheers for the info, frontline for me soon.