Heads Up - Small gas stove

[MJM1]

Wilkinsons have got some Pocket Rocket clone gas stoves in for nine quid. Look pretty good quality, pot supports look stronger than the MSR ones, fit in a similar box to the Pocket Rocket but it's square instead of triangular.

Mike.

[Lister]

that would be this: http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/camping...t5D8evGQ%3D%3D

[MJM1]

That's the one. They've also got the low temperature gas canisters 2 for 6 quid.

[lub0]

so there are good quality?

[MJM1]

Pot stand seems pretty rigid, which the msr one isn't, I normally cut three pieces of hazel and hammer them into the ground as a pot stand when I use my MSR with anything heavier than a trangia kettle. For nine quid I would have bought one if I hadn't already bought the pocket rocket.

[rik_uk3]

great value for money

[pauljm116]

Thanks for the heads up on these. Picked one up yesterday, seems like a nice bit of kit. Been looking at pocket rockets for a while but cant go wrong with this for 9 quid.

[bilmo-p5]

There's a lot of cheap stoves to be had at the moment. I have one of these in the post; I'm going to gassify my Tran 27.

[Köld]

There are pocket rocket clones/fakes over on dealextreme for just over USD10 including worldwide shipping if you want to save some money over the real deal MSR stoves. Quality can be awful or just as good as the original, who knows. I seem to remember UK stores selling the pocketrocket for under GBP20. And there is always that titanium karrimor over at sportsdirect for GBP 16-17.

[rik_uk3]

I've still got an Epigas Micro Stove which was one of the fairly early small stoves that packed a punch, long before the Pocket Rocket.

I had one stove in the 70's, fuel line was rubber and it all packed into a small round tin, can't remember the name...any ideas folks?

[myotis]

I've still got an Epigas Micro Stove which was one of the fairly early small stoves that packed a punch, long before the Pocket Rocket.

I had one stove in the 70's, fuel line was rubber and it all packed into a small round tin, can't remember the name...any ideas folks?

I had one a bit like this in the 1960's

http://adventuresinstoving.blogspot....-mark-iii.html

Graham

[lucan]

I purchased a couple of these a few weeks ago Tidy little stoves and the price is good too

[rik_uk3]

I had one a bit like this in the 1960's

http://adventuresinstoving.blogspot....-mark-iii.html

Graham

Very similar but not a Hank Roberts...It was an English brand and purchased in Blacks, think I'm having a 'senior moment'.

[bilmo-p5]

Lytham Titch?

[Tengu]

I love my pocket rocket!

[Mikey P]

If you have a little more cash available, I'd recommend the Kovea Titanium (like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kovea-Tita...d#ht_500wt_922). I have had mine for over 8 years and it has been superb. It's tiny, reliable, has built-in piezo lighter and weighs nothing. Bit more expensive but has proved its worth.

[rik_uk3]

How does it perform, any better than the £10 stoves?

[Big Si]

Picked one of these up from wilkos, spot on and as good as the MSR IMHO. Can't go wrong at that price plus it's even better if you can refill the canisters

Si

[bilmo-p5]

There's a lot of cheap stoves to be had at the moment. I have one of these in the post; I'm going to gassify my Tran 27.

[Big Si]

Looking good Ian, Watch out it doesn't get too hot and melt the sides!

Si

[Mikey P]

How does it perform, any better than the £10 stoves?

I can't really compare too much with the other stoves mentioned as I don't have them. All I can say is that I've had it for 8 years, it lives in my mountaineering bag in winter and summer and I have used it to brew up many times. It has never failed, even in cold conditions, and I love the fact that there is a piezo starter on it so I don't need to worry about matches/lighter. Coupled with a titanium pot and a Primus windshield, it's a great little combination. Don't have to worry about meths/liquid fuel, it has it's own small hard carry case and folds up very small. It has been reliable and cost effective.

I'll find some pictures...

[Mikey P]

Here we go:



This one shows the stove folded in its little plastic container. Not that much bigger than a box of matches. It fits in the pot with the gas canister and the windshield goes around the bottom of the pot. Whole lot fits in mesh bag.



OK, here you see the piezo starter button, the windshield clipped round the neck of the gas canister, and the stove unfolded and arms opened out. The little wire handle adjusts the gas and it is, actually, quite 'adjustable' for cooking.

I also used this set-up in the LAMM race and it worked well and also in the Alps at over 4000m - the stove was OK (spluttered a bit) but this is more to do with the fuel than the stove itself (you have to warm and insulate the canister to get best results). On extended alpine routes where I need to melt a lot of snow, I would switch to my either my MSR XGK (which rules at altitude!) or my Jetboil and hanging kit (best for steep routes and hanging bivis).

I think I got it from Cotswolds in a rock-bottom sale for about £15 but you only seem to be able to get them from eBay now. I have no doubt that other stoves work but, in my experience, this stove has been excellent.

[rik_uk3]

Looking good Ian, Watch out it doesn't get too hot and melt the sides!

Si

Doubt it would Si, I've managed to melt a hole in an MSR thick foil shield but never a Trangia 25 or 27.

[Opal]

There's a lot of cheap stoves to be had at the moment. I have one of these in the post; I'm going to gassify my Tran 27.

What's the difference between yours and mine, bilmo? I bought mine when it was £14:99p.

[Big Si]

Doubt it would Si, I've managed to melt a hole in an MSR thick foil shield but never a Trangia 25 or 27.

I managed it when I had a clone muti-fuel running on paraffin in my 27. Still I should know better

Si

[rik_uk3]

I managed it when I had a clone muti-fuel running on paraffin in my 27. Still I should know better

Si

Tut tut, you were over doing it, doubt Ian would, he's too long in the tooth lol. I used a Nova in a 27 OK but to be honest only really use a 25 these days as I don't solo camp anymore. I've got several 27's and I'm bored...I might try a destruction test when I'm alone tomorrow; give me a chance to try out my new camera...pictures to follow

[myotis]

Tut tut, you were over doing it, doubt Ian would, he's too long in the tooth lol. I used a Nova in a 27 OK but to be honest only really use a 25 these days as I don't solo camp anymore. I've got several 27's and I'm bored...I might try a destruction test when I'm alone tomorrow; give me a chance to try out my new camera...pictures to follow

I asked Trangia about this, indeed their reply is posted here somewhere (or it might be CCS). They advised against using the multifuel in the Smaller 27' because of the way the flame spread. They also suggested, that in practice they thought it highly unlikely that this would really be a problem, but it "could" be a problem so this was their official line.

They took a similar approach to adapting non-trangia burners to the 25, that without knowing the heat output or flame pattern they couldn't officially endorse using any Burner other than a Trangia one, but again took a pretty pragmatic approach and said that in practice they didn't think it would be a problem.

The impression I was left with was that it probably wasn't a good idea to use any multifuel in a 27, but you could get away with pretty well anything in a 25.

I haven't looked for the email, but this is how I remember my interpretation if it.

Graham

[Big Si]

I didn't keep the melted shell, I have a picture some where, if I can find it!

Si

[myotis]

I didn't keep the melted shell, I have a picture some where, if I can find it!

Si

Out of interest, which clone multifuel was it that did the damage?

Graham

[Big Si]

Out of interest, which clone multifuel was it that did the damage?

Graham

One of those from China, I brought it about five years ago, I can see I'm going to have to get the camera out soon

Si