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    Default Can someone in words of one syllable explain Ebooks to me?

    Am i right in thinking i download them then view them in a pdf style way?
    i keep seeing loads of free ones and think oooh that looks good but don't really understand the whole concept
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    Electronic books. Either PDF or other text format to read on computers, tablets or phones.
    I have a kindle, very good if you like to read.

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    .pdf ebooks are perhaps not the best option as the shape of the page and the layout of the text is fixed. there are other options .epub probably being the most popular. Additionally some ebooks are 'protected' and can only be read on certain devices, or the device they were bought to be read on.

    If I'm reading a manual or a book with plenty of imagery I usually save them as .pdf's and sit my laptop on its side, flip the image ninety degrees and flick though the pages with the arrow keys.

    If I'm reading something that is mostly text I usually download it in or convert it to .html (a web page) and read it in that format.

    If you look here, you will find the 'Project Gutenberg' page for 'Woodcraft and Camping by George Washington Sears', there are several possible download formats, click 'HTML' to read the book in your browser or download the file of your choice.

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    Computers store information as strings of numbers. Sometimes very, very long strings of numbers.

    If you want to store something like a book, you have to decide how to turn the book into a string of numbers. Then you have to write some computer code to do that.

    Obviously then you have a string of numbers. If you give that to somebody on its own, just like that, it isn't much use to them. It's just a string of numbers.

    So in addition to giving them the string of numbers, you have to tell them how the book was turned into numbers. Agriculturally speaking, I'll call that the 'format'. It also helps a lot if you write some computer code to actually turn the numbers back into the book and display it on a screen so people can see it. Then you can give them the code as well as the numbers. Adobe did something like that, for example, years ago, and the rest is history.

    Lots of people have had a go at this, resulting in lots of different ways of turning the book (or whatever) into strings of numbers. Different strings of numbers for the same book. The different systems obviously have different capabilities, advantages and disadvantages etc. That's been mentioned in relation to the .pdf format for example.

    So there are lots of different formats, and the code that works with one format generally won't work with a different format. You can get a bit clever with the computer code to try to prevent people making copies of it. They call it 'Digital Rights Management' or DRM. They do the same sort of thing on DVDs. Generally any DRM will eventually be defeated by hackers, and there's been a tendency for sellers to move away from that kind of thing lately.

    With all the different companies in the business it's a bit of a nightmare at the moment.

    My wife has a Kindle. She loves it, and has, er, literally thousands of free books for it. I can't abide the things, give me a paper copy any day.

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    As simple as possible.... Get a Kindle. The price is good. The Kindle store is easy with loads of books both free and otherwise. My better halves elderly mother can use one so anybody can.
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    Other good thing about kindle. You can download books in any format from anywhere, then email it to your kindle email address. It gets converted to epub or whatever kindle uses for free :thumbup:

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    Another thumbs up for the kindle. Both myself and swmbo have one and they are pretty easy to use with plenty online step by step guides.

    Essentially you can download books from amazons website which you pay for or you can get them from various places for free.
    Kindle use a format called mobi and does not support the popular ePub however there is a very useful program that can be downloaded for free called calibre which will convert almost any text files, including PDF, into any other text file.
    This may be useful for anyone else here who uses an ereader as I have converted loads of different formats to mobi with it that I couldnt find in mobi or on amazon.

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    I've used my old Palm T3 and later TX models for years to store books on to read when I'm travelling - works brilliantly. If all I was going to do was to use it to read books, I wouldn't have bothered to upgrade, as the Palm works just fine for reading, and slips into a pocket easily when not. And with currently some 140 books on it, I've always got something to read, or re-read. And its a lot lighter - and more permanent - than hard-copy books. Not only do 6 or 7 weigh a ton, but I normally end up leaving most in my hotel room as my suitcase is too full of other junk I've bought!

    However, tablets offer so much more. Internet browsing, word processing, videos and games - the list is endless. I looked at Kindle and the Nook, but for multi-use - particularly videos - they are poor. Went instead for a Galaxy tab (refurb and bought in the US off ebay- cost about 120 quid all-in.) If you don't already have an ereader, and don't want some of the other options, then both the Nook and Kindle are well worth a look. I'd recommend getting one with some sort of back-lighting though - not all of them have it.

    nb - if you buy books - as I tend to do in eformat - bear in mind that there is a court case pending/going on re price-fixing of retail e-books, and the outcome is probably that the prices - which pretty much equate to a hard-copy version at the moment - will be falling shortly. Lots of free ones that have fallen out of copyright of course, but if you're following a series, you don't want to wait for 25 years!
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    Quote Originally Posted by swright81076 View Post
    Other good thing about kindle. You can download books in any format from anywhere, then email it to your kindle email address. It gets converted to epub or whatever kindle uses for free :thumbup:

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    You can also download a free Kindle app from Amazon.co.uk, then download loads of free books and read them on your laptop. And when your eyes are drooping, and you switch it off, it goes back to where you left it next time you switch it back on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by man_of_tanith View Post
    Can someone in words of one syllable explain Ebooks to me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepis View Post
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    We have a winner! Everyone else, myself included, has used more than one syllable! Accurate description too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric_Methven View Post
    You can also download a free Kindle app from Amazon.co.uk, then download loads of free books and read them on your laptop. And when your eyes are drooping, and you switch it off, it goes back to where you left it next time you switch it back on.
    I use a kindle reader, kindle on phone and iPad. All are synchronized. When I put the reader down, I can pick up from same page on phone or iPad and vice verca.

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    Ebooks are very handy. I have a kindle and its a perfect travel companion. The battery lasts ages between charges and you can store hundreds if not thousands of books on them. My wife has a two hour commute by train, five days a week and I charge the kindle every three weeks or so. The screen is crisp and very easy to read and while they are in no way a replacement for the feel, the smell of a good book, they come blooming close when away from home.

    http://www.gutenberg.org/ has thousands of copyright free books to look at and download as does

    http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/

    Many classic works relevant to this hobby and which are hard to get in paper print are there for you to enjoy.

    http://calibre-ebook.com/download_windows
    will convert many formats to kindle format for your enjoyment.

    I have hundreds (if not more) of books and the kindle will not replace them, but as a tool for when out and about they are hard to beat. Why be stuck with one or two books when camping when you can take a library with you. While some love the sound of nature to doze off to at night, some also like a good read before bed time, I enjoy both.

    I never wanted one then my children got me one as a present, I quickly saw how good it is and its now part of my camp kit.

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    I prefer books but I really rate the kindle for travelling and commuting. Struggling to hold a hardback on the bus is not fun and I reckon more people on my bus use them than use books. The one thing I really hate about ebooks though is that you can't have a nosey and see what other people are reading.

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    paper copy any day for me

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    Libraries also lend out e-books.

    You don't need to go into the library, you just use an app (Overdrive media comes pre-installed on many Android phones)

    Go to browse libraries, find your local library (prob just one listed for your council). You usually need a reader card number and pin to check out the books.

    It's fantastic. Just wish more books were available.

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    anyone interested in swaping a good hunting knife for a brand new still in the box kindle.I was given it from my sister as a pressie but ive never read book other that dogs/hunting books.I will never use it.Not one book on this NEW kindle.I could do with a nice knife thought,lol

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    recently got a kindle think its bloomin great. I only have a crappy internet dongle so downloading programs and stuff can be a hassle. I just found this website where you can convert pdf files etc to kindle friendly formats very handy as i cant download calibre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadhead View Post
    recently got a kindle think its bloomin great. I only have a crappy internet dongle so downloading programs and stuff can be a hassle. I just found this website where you can convert pdf files etc to kindle friendly formats very handy as i cant download calibre
    Its less than 50mb, you should be able too. I'll upload the file to skydrive and if you pm an email address you can access and download from there.

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    I dragged and dropped a load of 'survival' PDFs from my desktop onto my android phones memory card, but cannot access them on the memory card from my phone for some reason...
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    If you're not sure you will like them I would go with Eric_methven's suggestion and download the free app from amazon. You can then try the free books from amazon on your pc. If you do find you like the format you can get a kindle and when you register it the free books you have already will transfer to your kindle.
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    First of all I should say that I'm a book person, I love them and have a good amount covering a wide range of subjects.
    I like the feel of books, the smell of them the weight in my handWasn't at all blown away by the idea of Kindles but...

    I've recently borrowed one off a mate, its not bad at all. I put a PDF file from the computer on it but I couldn't zoom in on it. I assume that can be sorted somehow.
    The E books however were easy to use and worked well.

    Generally I found it easy to use, way thinner than a decent book and the thing holds a lot of info.

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