Inflatable mat for hammock

[The Big Lebowski]

Fancy a change in the warmer weather from an UQ, so my question...
Is there a decent inflating mat out there that fits something very similar to a Warbonnet BB?

I was toying with MLD's Klymit X Frame XLARGE, but reviews are mixed. Alpkit appears to have dropped the Numo,
but a few other company's do a similar style (for stupid money) so I'm looking at exped down mats at the mo.
It does not have to be full size as I was happy with a 3/4 UQ before.

Any suggestions

Cheers, al.

[crosslandkelly]

I've got the "Tenth Wonder, Green Hornet" hammock, and this time of year I use a length of space blanket insulation between the 2 bottom layers. Cut it to length, then seal the cuts with duct tape. Works for me.
Colin.

[The Big Lebowski]

Cheers collin. I had the same hammock. Nice kit for the price

I've used a foil laminated 5mm mat (with the UQ) in the depths of winter and it was too warm. Looking for a happy medium that will do 3 seasons or so...

atb, al.

[Shewie]

Some of the Pacific Outdoor mats would work well Al, the coffin shape should stop it from trying to creep out

[Teepee]

My Pacific airmat (500g) does the job in warmer weather and doesn't move about in any of my hammocks but I don't take it unless I'm definitely sleeping on the ground for at least one night.

For me, summer insulation is usually a 2/3rds down underquilt with 2" loft or a 24" wide CCF mat. I find any airmat in a hammock makes them tippy compared to ccf or an underquilt.

[The Big Lebowski]

Interesting, cheers guys.

The idea of the mat was to allow both ground dwelling and hammocking. Making my kit a bit more swappable. Have to give this one some thought....

[Ben98]

Hi
I have been thinking about getting one of these http://www.militarymart.co.uk//polis...prod_1778.html for use in my hammoc because it looks like it would bend to fit the shape of the hammoc better. Now that they are back in stock I shall buy one and see how it goes!
ATB
Ben

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[Nice65]

My Pacific airmat (500g) does the job in warmer weather and doesn't move about in any of my hammocks but I don't take it unless I'm definitely sleeping on the ground for at least one night.

Like my mate Dave at last years Bardsters Farm do.

[Andy BB]

Hi
I have been thinking about getting one of these http://www.militarymart.co.uk//polis...prod_1778.html for use in my hammoc because it looks like it would bend to fit the shape of the hammoc better. Now that they are back in stock I shall buy one and see how it goes!
ATB
Ben

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They are big and heavy, but well worth the dosh in my opinion. Nice waterproof base as well. I've used them onthe ground and as a mattress on a cot, but not in a hammock.

[The Big Lebowski]

That looks like a good solution ben, thanks for adding.
It may be a little too heavy though as most of my camps are 1-3 miles on foot from the motor. Might invest in one for meets though!

Cheers, al.

[Chiseller]

Any one tried using a wool blanket cut to size and inserted where the mat would go ? Like the idea of the space blanket :thumbup:

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[Mikey P]

Any inflatable mat that isn't too massive should do - you'l possible need to deflate it a little to allow it to mould/conform to the hammock shape.

[The Big Lebowski]

Cheers Mikey... Just wondered if there was a particular brand someone found effective.

The search continues

[Robbi]

These mats are really good in a hammock as they are totaly non-slip and don't move ( so i've been told ) i use then in a tent with sleeping bag and they are REALLY grippy. ( the Artiach Skin Mat 2 )

http://www.the-big-outdoors.com/camp..._mattress.html

some very good reviews if you google fu is working.

[The Big Lebowski]

Hmmmm

What are they like in colder weather on a personal level robbi?

[Robbi]

I've not had a problem with them, good insulation from the ground ( in a tent with ground sheet ) although i've not done really cold weather camping, just a light frost in the mornings

They're reasonably thick, I'll have a look see for a review for you.........back in a bit

[Robbi]

http://www.torpedo7.com.au/products/...TIACH-Skin-Mat

I'll keep looking and post in this "post"

From: Stephen Dmetruk, 02/24/98
Email: sdmetruk@sas.upenn.edu
Review Type: Sleeping Pad
Manufacturer & Name of Gear: Artiach Skin Mat Reg Midlength
Weight: 1 lb 14 oz
Cost: $64.00 US
Conditions: Rated 35 degrees / Summer
Usage: Hiking & Backpacking
Capacity: Long
Reviewer's Height & Weight: 5'6 - 130 lbs
Conditions: 4-Seasons - Moderate
Usage: Ultralight Fastpacking

This is an excellent self inflating pad.

Comfort: I've never slept on a Thermarest, so unfortunately I can't compare it to what would be the most viable alternative. But then again, I can't imagine sleeping on anything more comfortable (short of my own bed). The pad insulates well and is easy to adjust the right level of 'cushion' with the valve.

Setup/Use/Maintenance: This pad does not always inflate itself (I've read other reviews which expressed the same complaint). It always requires a bit of blowing, which is disconcerting since I imagine this will shorten the life of the pad because of mildew issues. The pad is also somewhat of a pain to roll up to fit it in its stuff sack and it takes a bit of time.

Packability: The pad rolls up into a package the size of, oh, a cylinder with the diameter of the middle of a football and about the same length. This is much much smaller than the Thermarests compress (I'm comparing to comprable Thermarests - not the ultralightweight ones). The package is very very dense once rolled up and I find it awkward to fit on the inside of my pack (I used to use a ridgerest, so having a pad in my pack is strange to me to begin with).

Durability: This pad is probably a little more delicate than Thermarests, but I have yet to experience any problems with it on the trail. I did, however, put it up against a wall which had a small pin (smaller than a sewing needle) sticking out of it and this punctured the pad. I didn't have time to repair the hole before my next trip and the pad didn't leak at all - I was shocked. I give the durability of the pad one thumb up. The patch looks pretty....wimpy too. I've seen Thermarest patches and they look much much better.

Verdict: I like this pad a lot. Its not perfect, but I have yet to find gear that is. I would buy it again (although maybe in a lighter weight - there are smaller ones). Yes - I'm quite pleased with my sleeping pad.

Also, the surface is the tackiest available, thus there is no sleeping bag slippage whatsoever.

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[The Big Lebowski]

Cheers Robbi... appreciated one for the list then!

While I'm here, anyone had dealings with Thermarest warranty? One pad has caught my eye. But it 'aint cheap

[drewdunnrespect]

why do u make an underblanket out of a jungle british issue sleeping bag cos then summer is soughted

[Karl82]

I use a 3/4 self inflating mat all year round just change between winter bag snugpack RE and snugpack softy 9 spring/autumn bag and wool blanket in mid summer. http://www.base.com/buy/product/gele...b001493dz0.htm or try the higear matt its exactly the same just a diffrent name printed on it http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/hi-gear-...ng-mat-p143705

[The Big Lebowski]

Cheers Karl... So you dont get any cold spots then?

I dont mind paying (good or bad) for something that will handle all year around really... It makes the hammock/pad/bivi bag a complete changeable kit.

[Karl82]

I do not get any cold spots, in winter if I think my feet are going to be cold I wrap my flees around them just as I did when I used a full length mat. I find the 3/4 actually fits the DD Hammocks better than a full length matt.

[Chiseller]

Any one tried using a wool blanket cut to size and inserted where the mat would go ? Like the idea of the space blanket :thumbup:

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[zarkwon]

I use a full length Thermarest in my Warbonnet. I like this set-up as I can ground dwell too (I usually carry a bivy bag as well) if no trees (crossing Dartmoor can be a challenge to find suitable spots) and use the hammock as a bug net suspended below my tarp on my poles. I have no comfort issues whatsoever with the pad in the hammock above ground as long as it's deflated enough to conform to my body.

[zarkwon]

http://www.snowandrock.com/thermares...s&siteid=83607
One for sale here

[The Big Lebowski]

Nice one zarkwon

I think that's clinched the 'quest' with yours and Karl's post.

Appreciated, al.

[zarkwon]

Hope it suits you mate. Let us know how you fair and any innovations you come up with whilst tinkering.

[The Big Lebowski]

Will do

Happy hammocking!

[lostplanet]

How did you get on?

[Bucephalas]

You don't need much insulation Al. I've never known you to turn in until the sun comes up anyhow.