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    Default A Food & Shelter Challenge...

    Right, i have been reading one of my "survival" type books, and thought it would be good to have a "challenge", now the weather is a little better and plants are coming up...

    the challenge will be to construct shelter and gather food for a sustained period of adleast 3 days and 2 nights.

    there is a strict kit list which i will give towards the end of the post.

    now for the rules...

    1) First Aid Kit and mobile phone are free bleeding out or being desperately in need of rescue isnt good and to do so for bragging rights is silly.
    2) As for clothing imagine what you would wear on a 1 day walk so good base mid a bit of warm kit (softey / snugpack etc etc ) pants and boots/socks anything over and above is not allowed.
    3) The best 3 entrants will be picked by Myself and then put up in a poll, the winner will be the most voted for person.
    4) Entrants would be picked on the basis of most done with least kit, ingenuity and sense of adventure.
    5) The time limit will be untill the end of June to allow everyone time to get out and give it a go
    6) Once the entrants have been picked the vote will go on for a week.
    7) Proof WE need a picture of all kit laid out and a write up of the load out. extra pictures of items in use will earn extra points camera is a free item based on this rule
    8) Entrants need to stay out for 2 night at least, longer trips with minimal kit could gain extra points
    9) Anyone using natural shelters and generally sourcing materials i.e cordage etc would get more points
    10) If you're a smoker you are allowed smokes but no lighter or matches, for non smokers Tea or Coffee is allowed but no sugar or milk.
    11) Food is to be counted as emergency rations and are not to be used unless in an emergency
    12)multiple entries are permitted and encouraged
    13)a minimum of 4 miles to be walked each day, this is to make a more realistic situation of survival use of calleries
    14) Have Fun but first and for most BE SAFE....Leave contact details and exact locations of where you are and for how long, the last thing we want is for someone to get hurt or worse.....

    The kit list is as follows:-

    1. clothes as per a normal day walking, (a wooley hat is permitted also)
    2. set of waterproofs, top and bottom
    3. outer jacket, any type you want
    4. knife of your choosing
    5. axe or heavy blade for chopping etc
    6. 2 x survival bags, if you cant get them wheeley bin liner bags could be used, or foil blanket, or even a combination or the 2, which is what i plan to do
    7. cooking pot (without a lid), crusader mug is ideal
    8. 2 x plastic bags (any shop type Tesco style bag)
    9. 5 meters of para cord or any non natural cordage
    10. water bottle 1 liter, military type ideal
    11. fire steel and striker if you wish (fero rod type)
    12. survival tin (small tobacco tin with survival equipment of your choice)

    13. Luxury item or Tea or Coffee or Smokes

    Free Items:-
    (bold items emergencies only)

    FAK
    ID book for plants and trees
    Camera
    phone
    water (as some peoples permission has non at all)
    daysack for emergency kit and sharps etc etc
    emergency rations
    sleeping bag
    biviv bag
    torch/signal flares/smoke




    please post interest in this thread and also your trip photo's and write ups in here too,
    this will make it easier for myself to find it all when it is decision time.

    any questions ask away.

    chris.
    Last edited by lannyman8; 09-04-2012 at 18:13.
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    I was in till you said i cant smoke

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabrielsdad View Post
    I was in till you said i cant smoke
    same here !! Why the anti smoking stance ??? am sure its the first thing i would reach for in a `survival ` situation !!

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    well it kind of defeats the object if you have a lighter and fags, if i have to go with out coffee then its only fair....
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    ok how about a luxury item, but only 1....

    this could be coffee but no sugar or milk, tabs but no lighter etc etc etc, non essential kit only though...
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    Id be happy to not take a lighter. bit of crampball or chatcloth is probably better than a lighter in a good wind. But i want my smoke

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    ok, luxury item of Tea Coffee or Tabs, hows that.... 1 item...
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    Can flint and steel replace a ferro rod? theres no mention if a pack. Is a small day sack allowed. Or pockets inly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lannyman8 View Post
    ok, luxury item of Tea Coffee or Tabs, hows that.... 1 item...
    Im in. Just going to work out what, where and when now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabrielsdad View Post
    Can flint and steel replace a ferro rod? theres no mention if a pack. Is a small day sack allowed. Or pockets inly?
    Sorry read 8t again properly i saw the kit list.

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    a daysack is in the free items, in all reality it would be 1 of the first things to grab or make to carry kit...

    yes flint and steel can replace fero rod, but tinder should be found on the ground when you start, this is why i said fero rod to start with, it gives you much more options...
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    Quote Originally Posted by lannyman8 View Post
    well it kind of defeats the object if you have a lighter and fags, if i have to go with out coffee then its only fair....
    No fags AND coffee!!! Damn thats harsh lol!!!
    Best of luck guys, Im gonna keep an eye on his thread, looks brilliant!!
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    thanks steve, your now allowed coffee or fags, im not though...
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    This looks good, I fancy a crack at it.

    The food is an issue for me though, I'm gonna starve for 2 days!

    2 Q's;
    Is a reference book for foraged foods allowed to avoid chowin' down on Cuckoo pint or Death caps?

    Is there a limit on fishing gear in the survival tin? (obviously, no rods or reels )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teepee View Post
    This looks good, I fancy a crack at it.

    The food is an issue for me though, I'm gonna starve for 2 days!

    2 Q's;
    Is a reference book for foraged foods allowed to avoid chowin' down on Cuckoo pint or Death caps?

    Is there a limit on fishing gear in the survival tin? (obviously, no rods or reels )
    Surely its upto us whats in the tin. Asling as itd a standard dort of sized tin. Ill struggle food wise wuth that kit. I suppose thats the challenge for me.

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    I tell you what would be a good challenge. Have some trackers try to find either teams or indivifuals over a set time or so many miles. Id love to be the escapee/survivor in that game

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    good idea about the book Teepee, will add that to the free bees, ref fishing kit, if it fits in your tin then you can have it. the idea behind the tin was allot of people have a small tin like that with some basic kit in stashed in the car etc etc, so you would probably have access to it.

    the whole idea of this challenge is to test skills with minimal kit, i have done it before with 5 items but that was quite uncomfortable, i was hungry too.

    should be a good test when i get round to it....
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabrielsdad View Post
    I tell you what would be a good challenge. Have some trackers try to find either teams or indivifuals over a set time or so many miles. Id love to be the escapee/survivor in that game
    i have never done a long term escape and evasion exercise, only 24 hours and you dont need any kit for that really, no food for sure, your to busy running from dogs and men...

    id love to organize an event like that or take part in one, but the problem is the land area, and being allowed to use open fires, and make natural shelters etc etc. you would need a great big old area to make it of any use on the run and hide scenario...
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    shouldn't tea/coffee be an essential item? mainly from the mental stand point i.e if you get lost, stop and make a brew (and in doing so make fire etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lister View Post
    shouldn't tea/coffee be an essential item? mainly from the mental stand point i.e if you get lost, stop and make a brew (and in doing so make fire etc)
    There is always nettle/brambleleaf/pine needle tea for that usage....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lister View Post
    shouldn't tea/coffee be an essential item? mainly from the mental stand point i.e if you get lost, stop and make a brew (and in doing so make fire etc)
    what John said....
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    hmmmm i wonder if my shelter is still standing,....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikey View Post
    hmmmm i wonder if my shelter is still standing,....
    LMFAO......

    should be mate we made her a gooden, maybe the tramps have taken her over though....
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    i am going to register interest in this but hold back on committing completely.
    main concern i have is that only one spot in this area is a definite for me camping all others are less friendly so i may not be able to do it
    see what i can get away with at the time
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    Quote Originally Posted by lannyman8 View Post
    good idea about the book Teepee, will add that to the free bees, ref fishing kit, if it fits in your tin then you can have it. the idea behind the tin was allot of people have a small tin like that with some basic kit in stashed in the car etc etc, so you would probably have access to it.

    the whole idea of this challenge is to test skills with minimal kit, i have done it before with 5 items but that was quite uncomfortable, i was hungry too.

    should be a good test when i get round to it....
    Thanks for that mate.

    Nothing really bothers me except missing food (and fags but thats covered), I figure grilling a couple of trout with some spruce/pine tea is about all the belly filler I'm likely to get

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teepee View Post
    Thanks for that mate.

    Nothing really bothers me except missing food (and fags but thats covered), I figure grilling a couple of trout with some spruce/pine tea is about all the belly filler I'm likely to get

    Foraging ain't my strong point.
    your a lucky man if you can get trout where you camp, i cant, i will be eating lots of veg and roots, maybe some critters if i can find any, the area i will be using is nearly all pine so not all that good for foraging really...

    i used to live in Cambridge for 4 years, and Peterborough has lots of water around the area though...
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    This could be fun.

    Where im staying at the moment has no water that isnt contaminated heavily with chemicals so i assume hauling in 3 days water is cushty? providing i boil it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sappy View Post
    This could be fun.

    Where im staying at the moment has no water that isnt contaminated heavily with chemicals so i assume hauling in 3 days water is cushty? providing i boil it?
    yep you can have water as free item as there is none at your site....you just need to eat some more worms to make up the points...
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    Quote Originally Posted by lannyman8 View Post
    your a lucky man if you can get trout where you camp, i cant, i will be eating lots of veg and roots, maybe some critters if i can find any, the area i will be using is nearly all pine so not all that good for foraging really...

    i used to live in Cambridge for 4 years, and Peterborough has lots of water around the area though...
    I'll prolly head off somewhere to do this mate, somewhere up in Scotland is likely. Nene fish are an 'acquired' taste anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teepee View Post
    I'll prolly head off somewhere to do this mate, somewhere up in Scotland is likely. Nene fish are an 'acquired' taste anyway
    lol.....

    can i come, i would never have a chance and im skint....
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