2012 Doomsday - breath a sigh of relief

[Bushwhacker]

You could spend all your life worrying about stuff like this.

[mountainm]

You could spend all your life worrying about stuff like this.

that worries me...

[southey]

[mrcharly]

galactic year of some 25,626 years, Which is divided into 5 "seasons" of 1872000 solar days (5125.36 years).

What is this galactic year? The time it takes the solar system to perform an 'orbit' of the galaxy centre?

[ged]

What is this galactic year? The time it takes the solar system to perform an 'orbit' of the galaxy centre?

Never mind that, will somebody PLEASE tell me where this 33 seconds came from (or went), and how the Mayans measured time to within half a minute over thousands of years without reference to electron hyperfine energy level transitions?

[Trunks]

Never mind that, will somebody PLEASE tell me where this 33 seconds came from (or went), and how the Mayans measured time to within half a minute over thousands of years without reference to electron hyperfine energy level transitions?

The aliens told them


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[Zingmo]

Is it compatible with my blackberry 850

Only if your operating system is Y13.0.0.0.0 compliant!

Z

[HillBill]

Pretty much yeah, along with everything else in the galaxy. The black hole in the centre they named hanaub ku. Funny how they knew about it in the first place eh?. They believe that every body ( planets etc) in our galaxy is born through it.

Heres the symbol for it.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=hun...w=1402&bih=876

I find it very interesting how closely the symbol resembles our present view of the galaxy ( to some extent)

What is this galactic year? The time it takes the solar system to perform an 'orbit' of the galaxy centre?

[ged]

Pretty much yeah, along with everything else in the galaxy. The black hole in the centre they named hanaub ku. Funny how they knew about it in the first place eh?. They believe that every body ( planets etc) in our galaxy is born through it.

What have you been smoking, Bill? Maybe you should do a Group Buy on it.

The Mayans didn't know about any black hole at the centre of our galaxy. They didn't know that there were such things as galaxies, let alone have a name for the thing in the middle of the one we happen to live in. They thought the earth was flat, that above it were the heavens and below it was the underworld which could be reached through caves:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_civilization#Religion

I find it very interesting how closely the symbol resembles our present view of the galaxy ( to some extent)

Apparently you're not the first to note the similarity, but to leap from there to claims about Mayan astronomy is to test limits of credibility which Argüelles himself would probably have wished to avoid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunab_K...b_Ku_as_Symbol

And incidentally the Mayan calendar had exactly 365 days, so it was 'out' by one day every four years, whereas the Gregorian calendar is only out by a day after about 3,000 years:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_ci...on#Mathematics

[mrcharly]

Yah, and a 'galactic year' is just a smidgen more than 25 000 years.

Can I have some of what you are drinking?

[HillBill]

If they didn't know of our galaxy, how then did they produce the long count calendar, which represents a galactic year? and so accurately too. Cant produce an accurate calendar of something if you dont know it exists

You are correct in a way though. They didn't see it as we do. If you described our galaxy as best you could to an ancient mayan they probably wouldn't have a clue what you were saying. They knew it as the world tree.

Don't get your last point at all mate. The gregorian calendar is out by a day every 4 years. Hard to refute that one

What have you been smoking, Bill? Maybe you should do a Group Buy on it.

The Mayans didn't know about any black hole at the centre of our galaxy. They didn't know that there were such things as galaxies, let alone have a name for the thing in the middle of the one we happen to live in. They thought the earth was flat, that above it were the heavens and below it was the underworld which could be reached through caves:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_civilization#Religion



Apparently you're not the first to note the similarity, but to leap from there to claims about Mayan astronomy is to test limits of credibility which Argüelles himself would probably have wished to avoid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunab_K...b_Ku_as_Symbol

And incidentally the Mayan calendar had exactly 365 days, so it was 'out' by one day every four years, whereas the Gregorian calendar is only out by a day after about 3,000 years:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_ci...on#Mathematics

[southey]

BBC 2 now for a real and current threat to OUR forum

[Trunks]

Wiki is a great resource, but have you read widely from other sources? There is more accurate information to be found in many books on the subject...

Many other civilisations believe in a world within caves within our world. I find it interesting that so many seemingly unconnected civilisations share the same "myths".

Not saying they're true, but still fascinating


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[oldtimer]

Did I miss the end of the world?

[mrcharly]

If they didn't know of our galaxy, how then did they produce the long count calendar, which represents a galactic year? and so accurately too.

Do you have any idea of the length of a galactic year? It certainly isn't anything like 25000 years.

[santaman2000]

...advanced mathematics as a prediction method? not too good at that were they since they never predicted their civilisation being crushed, gold being stolen and being sold into slavery did they? i don't see how anyone can put any faith in a calendar that weighs 2 tons and is carved on a block of stone, nor any faith in the predictions of a people who so spectacularly failed to predict the end of their civilization.

So instead we put all our faith in our current calender; printed on flimsy paper and still essentially based on the one developed by the Romans who also failed in said respects? Their civilization (the Roman's) was overturned and absorbed by barbarian (by comparison) cultures.

[shaggystu]

Never mind that, will somebody PLEASE tell me where this 33 seconds came from (or went), and how the Mayans measured time to within half a minute over thousands of years without reference to electron hyperfine energy level transitions?

more to the point, are they 33 mayan seconds or 33 gregorian seconds?

[santaman2000]

If they didn't know of our galaxy, how then did they produce the long count calendar, which represents a galactic year? and so accurately too. Cant produce an accurate calendar of something if you dont know it exists ...

Our current calender was developed based on the Earth orbiting the Sun; and it was developed when they still believed the opposite.

[santaman2000]

...Don't get your last point at all mate. The gregorian calendar is out by a day every 4 years. Hard to refute that one

Not really. Leap year is part of the Gregorian calendar so technically it's NOT out as it self corrects.