fifteen or less challenge second year!

[Man of Tanith]

That's a lean list Sam. No I'm out with my kit I must confess that 15 items doesn't feel like much of a hardship. I think 10 or less would really make me focus. A great way of reducing clutter though for sure.

Thats cause i am daft paul
ten or less i thought might put folk off
having a set number does focus the mind on what is important and what is just wants or shiny kit syndrome

[Man of Tanith]

bump
how did you get on Paul? any photos?

[Man of Tanith]

so me and pete are doing this on friday
here is my list
1 waterproof poncho x2
2 dutch blanket
3 knife
4 matches/tinder kit
5 mug
6 brew kit
7 small food package
8 billy can
9 axe
10 head torch
11 hip flask of stag's breath
so 13 items in total

[Goosegog]

Is this still running...as me and my son would love a go... we can do at least two nights...
We would try for a lot less than 10 items between us.
We are away this weekend (shelter building practice plus a clean up of the place after numptys have been)
So we could do the challenge in three weeks time when our next time slot to get away become available.

[Man of Tanith]

yeah still running

[Goosegog]

Right , Me (Pete) and my son (Liam) will be doing this in two weeks times for two nights. I will post a list of our kit along with Photos, the will follow with photos and a write up of our Ordeal(HAHA)... let you know closer to our time out.

[BareThrills]

here is my piccies

didnt really do anything wonderful or inventive besides making a crap spoon. i did find it quite easy and will try and go for 10 or less next time out.

Arrival


Tarp up



Tent up



Dinner on - look what we found with smash :thumbup:



Something to eat with. It didnt look very good but i didnt starve lol



Stumbled across a fire in the wood so rested a while with my hip flask

[decorum]

Nice one Paul, what was the kit you eventually went with? Any thing you'd have swapped out and what for?

My god man , that's no hip flask ~ it's a femur flask .

[BareThrills]

I went with the list i posted earlier in the thread, Didnt really need the saw or the tinder kit. I would have taken a head torch rather than the UCO but the UCO was new and i wanted to play. If the weather had been better id have left the tarp too. Dont think there was anything i really missed or would have wanted extra

It really made me think about what i really need and for the first time ever my pack was a pleasure to wear.

My dad always said you never need to take more drink with you than you can fit in a hip flask. So i got a 2l one

[decorum]

... Didnt really need the saw or the tinder kit.

Yeah, those two tend to be occasional essentials for me too ~ most often they sit idle, but sometime they've save me a whole world of hassle

I would have taken a head torch rather than the UCO but the UCO was new and i wanted to play.

Good move, most kit can be checked and tested at home ~ but using them in situ tells you whether it's worth its weight and having to rely on it will have given more of an insight to its strengths and weaknesses .

If the weather had been better id have left the tarp too.

Or kept the tarp and ditched the tent?

It really made me think about what i really need

Dave and Sam came up with a good concept didn't they .

and for the first time ever my pack was a pleasure to wear.

Quite telling, isn't it .

My dad always said you never need to take more drink with you than you can fit in a hip flask. So i got a 2l one

I like that quote

[BareThrills]

Should have added that the SAT cook pot is a stunning (if heavy) bit of gear. ill leave the windshield home next outing to save weight but is just the right size in every way

[kINGPIN]

I'll definatly be trying out this challenge soon. Can't believe I havent tryed it already.

[Man of Tanith]

Nice Photos paul
glad you learnt from it
spoon looks good as a first off function over form mate!
looking forward to mine on friday
i need a hip flask that big in my kit stores!

[BareThrills]

good value and actually a nice water canteen in hot weather at 2 litres

http://www.iwantoneofthose.com/gift-.../10285586.html

[Man of Tanith]

oooh one to add to wants list i think

i might still re jig my kit list for friday not sure

[Man of Tanith]

RE juggled list
1 &2 water proof poncho's(2 items)
3 hatchet
4 knife
5 mug
6 billy can
7 food
8 brew kit
9 tinder/fire pouch
10 Roll Mat
11 Hip Flask of Stag's Breath
12 blanket

Scrapped the head torch just have to make sure i dont walk into anything in the dark
food wise i'm going with chorizo and bannock and bacon (tortilla)rolls
Pete is bringing kebabs and rice
if i were doing this completely on my own i would more than likely take cous cous and a smoked sausage plus my above mentioned grub and a couple of instant soups

[S.C.M.]

ooh, now this looks very interesting - and probably far too easy for someone who's in Portugal...no need for a tarp in summer, you could get by with:
blanket (it gets surprisingly cold at night) no need for it though, if you have *winter*clothes
food and lots of water
firebox if you really need hot meals and brews *and maybe a saw for wood then
cooking kit/eating kit
knife(s)
hygiene kit

FAK, clothing(zip-off trousers, shirt, jacket, socks, shoes)(and swim gear might be nice, depending on where you are)

oh yeah, and insect repellent (citronella wipes maybe?)

I might try this actually, sounds easier than it would be in england

[BareThrills]

ooh, now this looks very interesting - and probably far too easy for someone who's in Portugal...no need for a tarp in summer, you could get by with:
blanket (it gets surprisingly cold at night) no need for it though, if you have *winter*clothes
food and lots of water
firebox if you really need hot meals and brews *and maybe a saw for wood then
cooking kit/eating kit
knife(s)
hygiene kit

FAK, clothing(zip-off trousers, shirt, jacket, socks, shoes)(and swim gear might be nice, depending on where you are)

oh yeah, and insect repellent (citronella wipes maybe?)

I might try this actually, sounds easier than it would be in england

The less you take the better your score

[Mick w.]

I quite like the idea of this, although being a bit new to it I may try and wait until it isn't quite so wet!
One question though - if I take my dog with me, does his stuff count to the fifteen? I promise not to share his bowl....
I'm thinking his lead, his bowl and a jacket I put on him at night when he's curled up under our tarp.

[BareThrills]

discount the dog and his gear.

[S.C.M.]

The less you take the better your score

if I wasn't going far from my house/land, and if I was hunting (if only I had a nearby lake I could fish in!) I could make do with a lot less, as long as I had access to a water source (read:tap)I could make do with: (summer)
blanket, shovel, knife (not sure which), saw, means of making fire, pot oh, and hygiene kit(tooth cleaning and TP) (and maybe food)
with freebies of FAK, clothing (shorts and tee-shirt[does that get me extra points?])
using the shovel and water, I could make a firebox (our land is pretty much clay), I could probably catch a rabbit or pigeon, and definitely some sparrows (oh for a lake nearby) carobs are worryingly ripe (far too early) and there are almonds that I could probably eat....food would actually be the biggest problem

am I allowed to use tap water, or do I have to bring it with me when there is no natural source?

[Man of Tanith]

Well i faied miserably on the fifteen or less part of the challenge..... too much temptation in Pete's car as it was still loaded up with goodies from the previous weekend away fishing with his mate. but we had a good time photo's to follow in a seperate thread soon.

SCM re tap water erm i'd say yeah thats ok as long as you don't keep going back to it too much
we took in 11ltrs between us on friday but didnt use it all

[Man of Tanith]

for the viewing of my failure please look here
next time i'm walking up to the permission so i am removed from temptation

[S.C.M.]

SCM re tap water erm i'd say yeah thats ok as long as you don't keep going back to it too much
we took in 11ltrs between us on friday but didnt use it all

Thanks- I just feel that using tap water to make an adobe "firebox" would make much more sense than taking bottled water...only to sort of throw it away!

[S.C.M.]

ummm....does a SAK count a one item? or does it count as however many tools it has on it?

I may be making a trip sooner than I thought, but I have decided to not make a fire (probably), because it's just too much of a risk even so, I wish I could, I'm not fond of cold food


p.s.when does the challenge close again? can't seem to remember/find the close date

[Man of Tanith]

SAK is one item as its one thing
i believe the end of august i said after several edits to the end date.
RE fire if conditions prevent you from having a ground fire you can take a fire box/bbq to elevate the fire for free
for example near me is a pine wood that has a good 3 or 4 inch deep leaf litter unsafe to have an open fire on it so a container is free as it is a safety issue

[S.C.M.]

even with a firebox I would be very, very nervous, and I don't think it's a good idea I would only really feel safe if it had just rained, or if I had one of these

and they aren't very portable, really (I probably could make one in adobe, but it would almost certainly take more than a day, and require more stuff than I am willing to bring (I would need quite a lot of bricks, so would need forms, shovel, bucket to mix in....) too much faff, so I will (if I actually do this comp) make food beforehand, then carry it in, supplement with almonds, maybe, carobs(bit iffy about these though, even if they are quite good)


hmm... I remember reading about a type of bread-loaf that was stuffed with nuts, maybe meat too, or with raisins, honey, sweet stuff... an entire meal in one or two loaves




now I think about it, I may have a gas mini-stove somewhere...hmmmm

[Man of Tanith]

if you can build the above i would be well impressed

[S.C.M.]

if you can build the above i would be well impressed

hmm... I actually think it wouldn't be so hard...if you leave out the faffy bits to the sides, just do the centre, you may have to include some metal for the floor and lintel, but maybe not, it would depend on the design...dammit, i don't need another project!

[Man of Tanith]

i don't need another project!

no one needs another project mate
i have a list as long as me arm of new projects, started projects, unfinished projects