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    Thumbs down need some advice please help

    Hi all at the moment I'm waiting to move and most lightly to a flat so won't have anywhere for my shed / workshop so will have to scale down my tools a lot I'm intrested in metal work wood work leather work ect what would you suggest for a small tool kit for all things crafty thanks to anyone with sugestions or for just looking

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    If you're used to some sort of a workshop, I think the most difficult thing would be not having a bench. Many boat layouts have the bunk double as a bench. Admittedly there's a bit of messing about to get the mattress out of the way while it's a bench, but it's better than nothing. You can store tools under it too. Don't let them go rusty if it gets at all damp under there.

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    Boat?......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottishwanderer View Post
    Boat?......
    Yes, boat. They tend to be on the small side, a bit like flats. Use yer loaf!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ged View Post
    Yes, boat. They tend to be on the small side, a bit like flats. Use yer loaf!
    Boats are huge, ships can be on the small side. Use your loaf lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottishwanderer View Post
    Boats are huge, ships can be on the small side. Use your loaf lol
    Ever heard of a narrowboat... they're pretty common and tend to be fairly small...
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    Mad Dave... When I see lovers' names carved into a tree, I don't think it's cute, I just think it's strange how so many people take knives on a date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesquite View Post
    Ever heard of a narrowboat... they're pretty common and tend to be fairly small...
    Yes but a narrow boat isn't a boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottishwanderer View Post
    Yes but a narrow boat isn't a boat.
    You intending to wind as many people up as possible this weekend or something?
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    now now play nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottishwanderer View Post
    Yes but a narrow boat isn't a boat.
    Ok... if it's not a boat what is it... bearing in mind the official dictionary description of a boat is

    a small vessel for travelling over water, propelled by oars, sails, or an engine
    Mad Dave... When I see lovers' names carved into a tree, I don't think it's cute, I just think it's strange how so many people take knives on a date.

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    Boats go underwater, ships go on top of water. This is the way described by some navies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougster View Post
    You intending to wind as many people up as possible this weekend or something?
    No but fyi your sig line is not a quotation by BF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottishwanderer View Post
    Boats go underwater, ships go on top of water. This is the way described by some navies.
    BCUK isn't a navy. Is there any need to be so awkward just for the sake of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ged View Post
    If you're used to some sort of a workshop, I think the most difficult thing would be not having a bench......
    a good sized log makes a fairly decent substitute for a workbench, i've got a great big chunk of leylandii that i to use for all sorts of crafty things, i fixed some old carpert to the bottom of it so that it doesn't damage the floors and drilled a couple of holes in the top so that i can screw a vice to it. it's a good, cheap, very stable surface that i can drill/hammer/clamp/glue/nail etc. it works well for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesquite View Post
    Ever heard of a narrowboat... they're pretty common and tend to be fairly small...
    Narrow but long...

    Quote Originally Posted by whats wrong with you all View Post
    BCUK isn't a navy.
    Bearded men with hammocks, it's not far off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottishwanderer View Post
    Boats go underwater, ships go on top of water. This is the way described by some navies.
    You're totally wrong with the naval definition... Just because some navies define a submarine as a boat that doesn't make every other thing that floats a ship.

    A boat is a watercraft of any size designed to float or plane, to provide passage across water. Usually this water will be inland (lakes) or in protected coastal areas. However, boats such as the whaleboat were designed to be operated from a ship in an offshore environment. In naval terms, a boat is a vessel small enough to be carried aboard another vessel (a ship). Another less restrictive definition is a vessel that can be lifted out of the water. Strictly speaking and uniquely a submarine is a boat as defined by the Royal Navy. Some boats too large for the naval definition include the Great Lakes freighter, riverboat, narrowboat and ferryboat. The term armed boat, used primarily by English speaking naval forces, referred to any boat carrying either a cannon or armed occupants, such as marines.
    Mad Dave... When I see lovers' names carved into a tree, I don't think it's cute, I just think it's strange how so many people take knives on a date.

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    I always thought that the difference was that a boat heeled into the direction of the turn when turning (kind've like riding a bike round a tight corner) whereas a ship heeled away from the direction of the turn (something to do with ship stability and moments and I can't remember what else), all to do with the dynamics of how they behave more than anything else...

    That may just be idle scuttlebutt tho maties, y'arrrr!

    I would like to see a 5000t 'boat' submarine piggybacking it's way home on top of a 5000t 'ship' frigate tho

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    A "ships boat" is a tender to a ship - it is not a sub!
    A "workshop" is somewhere to make things be it in a boat or on dryland - not somewhere to sell work (though sometimes you can buy things in a workshop if they do not have a shop where they sell their work) though can also refer to a practical seminar in a particular skill.
    A "narrowboat" was originally a barge pulled by horses - but is now a cannalboat powered by engines whos power is measured in "horsepower"
    "stump-work" is a form of woolen embroidery - not work done on a stump of wood being used as a workshop either on a narrowboat or a ship of the line (but stumpwork can be done in such a workshop).
    A set of tools for a small work area in a small flat - I would recomend a B&D workmate and a table top that you can clamp onto said workmate , made from a sheet of MDF with a 4x2 screwed to the underside.
    Worktop/vice/clamp in one packable package.
    Add a plastic storage bin that will slide away under your sofa/bed and you can safely store alll your usual tools from drill and sander to knives and files, well out of the way
    I hope that all helps
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    Stone me, guys, what have you been up to while I've been out?

    I just meant -- Oh, sodit. Whatever you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imagedude View Post
    ..............

    Bearded men with hammocks, it's not far off.
    Speak for yourself !

    I keep checking, but nope, Mother Nature's leaves me without M.


    Scottishwanderer, wind your neck in please. I come here to chill out, I'd like to keep it that way.

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    Meh it doesn't matter. My grandad served in the navy then the merchant navy, my dad and uncle both served in the navy.

    All of them told me a few years ago that a boat went underwater and a ship was on top of water in the navy but my grandad said in the merchant navy a ship was an ocean going vessel and a boat was inland.

    I wasn't looking for an argument i just thought ged was having a joke so i tried to reply jokingly.

    Meh the written word is harder to decipher than the spoken.

    So we are all right we were just using knowledge we had of a term attributed to specific specialisations and assumed that it was correct for all.

    Big hug?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toddy View Post
    Speak for yourself !

    I keep checking, but nope, Mother Nature's leaves me without M.


    Scottishwanderer, wind your neck in please. I come here to chill out, I'd like to keep it that way.

    Toddy
    Sorry i wasn't trying to cause an argument( see my previous post) i think a smiley would have stopped this.

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    Thank you

    It's hard to convey emotion in little paragraphs on the internet, and though the emoticons help not everyone sees them the same way; I had a row with British Red over the little winking smilie.
    I reckon it's a gentle poke fun sort of emoticon; he reckons it's snide and a bit nasty.

    No offence intended is the best way I reckon.

    Anyway I grew up on boats, my Dad built them, I don't think he could have built a ship

    Workshops....for a long while I used a chest of drawers with a big board that tucked away down the back of it that I lifted up and bolted onto the top. Fine jewellery metalwork and soldering was fine, but no way could I belt something with a big hammer on it. The drawers kept everything tidy and the top usually had books on it when it wasn't on use so the bolt holes were covered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottishwanderer View Post
    No but fyi your sig line is not a quotation by BF.
    http://thinkexist.com/quotation/beer...to/146025.html
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    Yeah but read some of his stuff and you'll find he did make a similar qoute but it was about wine and the first part of his quotation puts it in context.

    The beer quote is a very well known urban myth.

    If you google your sig you'll find the real quote.

    Hope this helps brother.

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    OK.... Having some considerable First hand knowledge here.....

    A Boat.... Any Vessel not being a "Ship of the Line".

    A Ship.... Any Vessel that is a "Ship of the Line".

    A Ship of the line... Usually Sea-going or Built fer the sea.... One of a Fleet... Royal Navy (Or other Navy). Merchant Navy Fleet... Or other National Merchant fleet....

    A Boat May be part of Ships Equipment Not the other way round... i.e. Life-boat. Tender. etc.

    Royal National lifeboat Institution Boats, even sea going ones are termed Boats as they are in effect "Shore Craft". And are traditionally termed.

    As fer Submarines the term "Boat" fer them is taken from Submarine-boat... And is continued in tradition Regardless of size....

    Hope that clarifies....

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    What about gravy boats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spandit View Post
    What about gravy boats?
    Glass or Porcelain?.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by rimmer View Post
    Hi all at the moment I'm waiting to move and most lightly to a flat so won't have anywhere for my shed / workshop so will have to scale down my tools a lot I'm intrested in metal work wood work leather work ect what would you suggest for a small tool kit for all things crafty thanks to anyone with sugestions or for just looking
    Back on track.....

    I'd be tempted to keep my tools and forego some of the furniture!

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