sharpest and worlds strongest knife

**luckylee** · 13-05-2011, 20:40

sharpest and worlds strongest knife money can buy, this is what a program i was watching yesterday said, the knife is made of ceramic, and is stronger than any steel known to man, and never really need to be sharpened, sound fantastic, just wondered whether any of you guys own such a tool, and what are your thoughts on it, i found a bit with the knife on you tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzNxD...eature=related
would like your thoughts guys.

**JonathanD** · 13-05-2011, 20:41

You can't baton with it though.

**Harvestman** · 13-05-2011, 20:43

I wonder how that would stand up to a spot of batoning?!

**Harvestman** · 13-05-2011, 20:44

Great minds...

**sandbender** · 13-05-2011, 20:45

Originally Posted by luckylee

"...is stronger than any steel known to man..."

What do they mean when they write 'stronger'?

**Samon** · 13-05-2011, 20:46

I saw a programme showing them a while back, a japanese guy was making them. they actually add metal in the cermain mix but only so they can't be smuggled past metal detectors at airports.

**JonathanD** · 13-05-2011, 20:50

They do get blunt though. Sharpening them would be a right 'mare.

**Neumo** · 13-05-2011, 21:01

Ceramic knives can chip as well, sometimes badly. A few years ago a giy I know spent £200 on one & was giving all the spiel about how it was the best knife ever etc... Then he cut up a coke can the second time out & the nose fell off, where the ceramic had chipped off. If you want something really strong for hard work (if you have not found out what an axes is...) then go for some kind of heavy military knife. They are big, stong & cheap. Ceramics are expensive, as far as I know.

**retired member need4wilderness** · 13-05-2011, 21:17

hi luckylee was wondering if you can tell me how you get the links i.e the utube link & what you do to save it & paste it onto like forums ? thanks

**luckylee** · 13-05-2011, 21:26

Originally Posted by need4wilderness

hi luckylee was wondering if you can tell me how you get the links i.e the utube link & what you do to save it & paste it onto like forums ? thanks

open another page to this one, say you tube, then at the top of your computer screen you will see http//www. whateverpage you are on, then righ click on that, copy that link and then paste it into the reply to thread box, that how i do it mate, but i bet there is a better way, there are more computer wizzkids on here than me mate.
hope that helps.

**luckylee** · 13-05-2011, 21:27

so they are SH..... then lads, just wondered what your thoughts were on them, as i had not heard or saw nothing like this before.
you have answered what i already thought was going to be the case.
cheer's
new it was to good to be true.

**m.durston** · 13-05-2011, 21:43

did anyone else wince when that guy ran the blade against that slice in his thumbnail! i'm sure a piece of paper would suffice lol

**blacktimberwolf** · 13-05-2011, 21:49

I'll stick with steel, it's not very manly walking about with a pretty white blade & what if you dropped it on a hard surface, wouldn't it shatter ? I think their place is in the kitchen, if anywhere.

**sasquatch** · 13-05-2011, 22:04

I could well be wrong but I think Aldi or Netto had ceramic kitchen knives a few months back for a real decent price. I didn't bother with one but wish I had now just out of curiosity...

**tomongoose** · 13-05-2011, 22:24

They are fantastic knifes if you are a chef but they have no flex you can't use them for filleting. They chop veg etc well but would be no good for bushcraft also you have to have a legit reason to have one as they can count as stealth knifes

**Siberianfury** · 13-05-2011, 22:26

by stronger the mean "Harder" which becomes brittleness, ceramic knives have their place in the professionals kitchen, but no place in bushcraft, as they would most likley break under any impact. id far rather stick to my tried and tested tool steel.

**JMHAZ** · 13-05-2011, 22:45

Luckylee, as a couple of responses have indicated, ceramic knives are intended for kitchen use. Their RC hardness is in the 75-76 range IIRC, so they hold an edge superbly for chopping vegetables and so forth. But they are far too brittle for outdoor use - the early ones could shatter if dropped on the floor. Newer examples are tougher, but one baton strike would pretty much put paid to any of them.

**bigandy** · 13-05-2011, 22:56

i have one of said aldi knives. great in the kitchen thus far. only got it to try!!happy so far with it.definately would nt take it to do anythin hard though

**Thijzzz** · 13-05-2011, 22:57

Originally Posted by m.durston

did anyone else wince when that guy ran the blade against that slice in his thumbnail! i'm sure a piece of paper would suffice lol

YES! My toes are still curled up!!!! What the heck did he do that for???

**forestwalker** · 14-05-2011, 05:03

I read somewhere that salt water fishermen sometimes use them, since they won't rust.

**Tjurved** · 14-05-2011, 06:36

Nah I think my hand sharpened mora knife sharpened by me (a.k.a. teh master) is sharper! Actually I can say with no ego that it's my sharpest knife ever. If, when I'm in the kitchen, would encounter god, god will be sliced into the sallad!

**blacktimberwolf** · 14-05-2011, 08:12

Originally Posted by m.durston

did anyone else wince when that guy ran the blade against that slice in his thumbnail! i'm sure a piece of paper would suffice lol

He can only sharpen 4 knifes a year as he has to wait for his cut nail to heal in between.

**FGYT** · 14-05-2011, 11:10

Originally Posted by tomongoose

They are fantastic knifes if you are a chef but they have no flex you can't use them for filleting. They chop veg etc well but would be no good for bushcraft also you have to have a legit reason to have one as they can count as stealth knifes

um no
1 they are metal impregnated so will show up on a metal detector etc so arn't a stealth blade
2 They are kitchen knives and have a specific exemption in the wording of the Ban (domestic use )

**Large Sack** · 14-05-2011, 11:37

Some surgeons use ceramic scalpel blades

**luckylee** · 14-05-2011, 11:54

they seem a little tougher than i thought, i thought if you dropped it, it would shatter, like some of you have said to, but this one seem's ok.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s26oK...eature=related

**NathanG** · 14-05-2011, 11:59

I've been thinking about this, and about what knives people who REALLY need to use knives carry, which ones take the most damage and which ones cut well, i thought about SAKs and opinels but then it occured to me: Stanley knife! as strong and sharp as you ever need, not much use for battoning though!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stanley-99E-.../dp/B0001GRVE6

**Hoodoo** · 14-05-2011, 12:46

If you had two of them, you could stab them into a board at an angle and use them like ceramic sticks to sharpen your real knife.

**blacktimberwolf** · 14-05-2011, 14:34

Originally Posted by NathanG

I've been thinking about this, and about what knives people who REALLY need to use knives carry, which ones take the most damage and which ones cut well, i thought about SAKs and opinels but then it occured to me: Stanley knife! as strong and sharp as you ever need, not much use for battoning though!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stanley-99E-.../dp/B0001GRVE6

I can see now why we need such strict knife laws !

**mrcharly** · 16-05-2011, 09:53

Stanley knife is useless for heavy cutting.

I wonder how that ceramic knife would do if tried on a bit of whittling? Say, a nice piece of seasoned yew? Bet it would either chip out immediately, or be useless because it had very acute bevels.

**BobvanVelzen** · 16-05-2011, 12:06

Having owned 2 ceramic knives all I can tell you is this: keep em in the kitchen for your fish and veggie's. My first broke on a cob of corn (shattered through the whole kitchen), the second chipped badly in the drawer. Both were of a cheaper quality then the ones shown in the video though.

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