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    A good tool makes the work go easier, faster, safer and, usually, more enjoyably. That’s the Helle Temagami in a nutshell, and I could pretty much end this review right there because this is a hard knife to criticise. Basically, Helle got everything just right with the Temagami and it is by far and away the easiest non-custom knife to use that I have ever owned.

    Pictured on my roving quiver, next to my 60 lb Ipe hunting longbow:





    And next to some good company (Guy Stainthorp Bushcrafter above with a Joel Bolden Model 1 and Fallkniven F1 below) to give an idea of overall scale:





    Notice how much more substantial the Temagami handle is by comparison:





    For scale, next to a Gransfors Bruks Mini Hatchet, with which it makes an ideal pair:



    As soon as you remove the knife from its sheath it is obvious that here is a working knife that does not follow the current mainstream. The Temagami is a substantial knife – the handle is long, wide and deep and works incredibly well in every hold you can imagine, offering a positive and safe grip. Very impressive are the more subtle design features that place the tip and belly of the blade right where they need to be for safe, controlled work, without the user having to even try.

    Ignoring the current popularity of 4mm (and over) blade thickness is a good thing in my opinion and helps make the Temagami a very efficient cutting tool indeed.

    Out of the box the knife was incredibly sharp (Helle knives tend to arrive ridiculously sharp and this was no exception) and it stayed that way through a lot of use. Feather sticks were a breeze, as was processing fish (cod and trout, on two separate outings), rabbits, and ducks. I have yet to try it on larger game but if early indications are anything to go by there will be nothing untoward to report.

    The traditional looking Scandinavian style sheath is safe for both the knife and user, having a wraparound plastic insert inside it to prevent the blade cutting through leather in the event of a fall or overenthusiastic placement in the sheath



    To date mine has been used in the kitchen for preparing meals, in place of a crooked knife to help shape the back of a longbow (after I found mine had been left on the Isle of Skye ), to prepare fish and game, to process the makings of fires and also to make the board and spindle for a hand drill, and it is a pleasure to use in all tasks.

    I ordered two of the first production run knives in stainless, the idea being that I would play with one and the other would go into storage for my currently 4 year old daughter as and when she reaches a suitable age. I have just ordered a third in laminated carbon for my own use and to directly compare the stainless/carbon working attributes. One of these days my curiosity about such things is going to catch up to me

    That should go some way to showing how utterly impressed I am with the Temagami as a working tool. Everyone I have handed the Temagami to has reacted positively to it in use.

    Basically the Temagami is a real anomaly in that in use, it epitomises what a good outdoors knife ought to be - it offers great edge retention, low maintenance (mine is the first production run in stainless) a super-comfortable and versatile grip that correctly places the blade and, as an overall package, it really is difficult to fault.

    I will update this in a month or two after I have worked the Temagami over a longer period but, so far, based purely on the last few weeks, it stands head and shoulders above an awful lot of the currently accepted de-facto bushcraft knives.

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    great review, i will keep my eye on what you have to say about this knife mate, as this could be my next purchase, as i have been looking for something different for some time, and this could be it, i love les stroud and what he stands for.
    he seems like an honest bloke, and not a fake like the rest of them, i also love helle, fantastic knives, and fantastic steel, i love my harding.
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    Sound greats ! I realy want to try one, do Hennies have them in at the moment?
    I am realy missing my Eggen, gave it to my brother-in-law as a 'introduction' to proper knives.
    I have quite a few customs ( Love that Bushcrafter by Guy btw, I have one in samba stag, a real beaut! )
    but I feel the need to replace my Eggen. I was going to get another but I think I will give the Temagami a try out after this review.
    Love the handle shape, I find many handles too narrow for prolonged use.
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    The handle size and shape really does go a very long way towards making this knife as good as it is in use.

    I guess I could do a passaround, if folks were that interested. I have, after all, one in storage for Charlotte (who may or may not continue to follow the outdoors path) and another on the way.

    A trio of Temagamis - oh, be still my thumping heart

    I almost sold my Guy Stainthorp bushcrafter on here a few months back and, on reflection, I'm pretty chuffed the sale fell through - I doubt I will ever use it, but it's very, very nice to have

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    They have them here http://www.moonrakerknives.co.uk/helle.htm thanks for the great review, it looks like an excellent knife.
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    This one has been on my radar since you described very favourably it in a thread quite recently. I await the follow-up with interest.

    I too like knives with - I guess you'd say - larger handles. eg I like the handle on my Becker BK2, but the blade is very (much too?) thick.

    How does the handle on this one compare size-wise with, say, the handle on the standard Frost Mora? (The green plastic handled one).

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Horse Dave View Post
    ... How does the handle on this one compare size-wise with, say, the handle on the standard Frost Mora? (The green plastic handled one).

    Cheers
    I haven't a clue - other than a couple of carvers I don't own a Mora - my bad

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    It sounds like a great bit of kit. The only thing I'm not too sure about are those groves on the spine of the blade. Do you find them at all obtrusive or off putting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartiniDave View Post
    It sounds like a great bit of kit. The only thing I'm not too sure about are those groves on the spine of the blade. Do you find them at all obtrusive or off putting?

    Dave

    Not at all - if you use them for their intended purpose (when extending the forefinger over the spine of the blade for skinning large game) they work well in giving said forefinger a better grip, especially if your hands are wet or slippery from blood or fat during butchering an animal out.

    Some websites were saying that the grooves were to strike sparks from a ferro rod - they aren't, and weren't intended for this, although they can work (sort of) for that purpose. Just another 'internet fact' that got out of hand

    The grooves work well and don't cause a problem at all - in fact, I used them to help process some nettle stalks and inner willow bark a few days ago for making cordage - they helped clean the outer gunk off the nettle stalks and could also be used to separate some of the fibres out.
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    I'm very happy that Les hooked up with Helle and they made a quality tool, However... am I the only one that thinks it looks a whole lot like an Enzo... I'm just sayin.

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    Other than overall physical size I don't think they are similar at all - no more so than an Enzo is similar to a Woodlore, which is similar to an Eggen, which is...

    They are all different to one another, sometimes in quite subtle ways and at other times more obviously so, but the Enzo is nothing like the Temagami in use IMHO, although it's fair to say that which knife you use is less important than how you use it. Some just lend themselves to the task at hand more readily than others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xunil View Post
    Other than overall physical size I don't think they are similar at all - no more so than an Enzo is similar to a Woodlore, which is similar to an Eggen, which is...

    They are all different to one another, sometimes in quite subtle ways and at other times more obviously so, but the Enzo is nothing like the Temagami in use IMHO, although it's fair to say that which knife you use is less important than how you use it. Some just lend themselves to the task at hand more readily than others.
    I hear what you're saying and agree fully agree. But talking about the Temagami and the Eggen - looking at pictures and dimensions they do look quite similar, especially the blade shape. Do you also have a Helle Eggen and if yes maybe could post a comparison picture to the Temagami? And do you happen to know wether the laminated steel of the Eggen is the same as in the stainless Temagami?

    Thanks and cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by jollo74 View Post
    I hear what you're saying and agree fully agree. But talking about the Temagami and the Eggen - looking at pictures and dimensions they do look quite similar, especially the blade shape. Do you also have a Helle Eggen and if yes maybe could post a comparison picture to the Temagami? And do you happen to know wether the laminated steel of the Eggen is the same as in the stainless Temagami?

    Thanks and cheers
    Jörg
    The Eggen is a superb knife and yes, I have one (two in fact ).

    There are some general similarities between the Eggen and the Temagami but that's all they are.

    If you don't mind waiting for a few days I will take some pictures of them side by side for comparison when I get both knives together - one is at home and the other is up at my cottage, and I won't be there until the weekend at the earliest.

    As far as I know the steel is identical.

    More to follow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xunil View Post
    If you don't mind waiting for a few days I will take some pictures of them side by side for comparison when I get both knives together - one is at home and the other is up at my cottage, and I won't be there until the weekend at the earliest.

    As far as I know the steel is identical.

    More to follow...
    Thanks Xunil and of course I don't mind waiting a few days .

    Cheers
    Jörg

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    Great review.

    Xunil, have you tried the Temagami with a firesteel? How does it work?

    At Helle´s webpage they say that the striking feature doesnt work the way the intended http://www.helle.no/Default.aspx?tab...language=en-US

    I have the Helle Eggen, a great knife that looks a lot like the Temagami, but I miss a carbon steel blade for firesteel use.

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    good job Very good review

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    I bought a LOT of raffle tickets to try and win one of these at the bushmoot - to no avail! After handling it briefly, I really loved it. Can't seem to find many in stock in the UK? I know Lurch has a draw for one soon (and in stock)Anyone had a chance to compare the stainless and the 01? Looks great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dross View Post
    I'm very happy that Les hooked up with Helle and they made a quality tool, However... am I the only one that thinks it looks a whole lot like an Enzo... I'm just sayin.
    It doesn't look much like an Enzo when you see them side by side. Though I can't put a picture up right now. The blade and handle are heading for 1cm longer on the Helle and the handle on the Helle is nearly twice as thick.

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    completly diffrent feel to an enzo, more rounded handle with a longer narrower blade. however they are both equally brilliant knives imo

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    Great review!
    How would you say the edge retention is on both the Carbon Laminated, and the Stainless Laminated models? does it form any tiny tiny chips/nicks in the edge after substantial use? That would be a real help.
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    Only used the triple laminated steel on another Helle, although I did get the Temagami on the pass around.

    Edge retention is superb. So much, I bought a Helle and use it daily now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xunil View Post
    ...I will update this in a month or two after I have worked the Temagami over a longer period...
    Did this ever happen? I'm wondering how you found the carbon version vs. the stainless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fjällräven View Post
    Great review.

    Xunil, have you tried the Temagami with a firesteel? How does it work?

    At Helle´s webpage they say that the striking feature doesnt work the way the intended http://www.helle.no/Default.aspx?tab...language=en-US

    I have the Helle Eggen, a great knife that looks a lot like the Temagami, but I miss a carbon steel blade for firesteel use.

    Here also the same question. I've had the Fjellman and I sold it because of the soft outer steel of the laminated blade. This prevented good sparks.

    I still own the jegermester, made of inox, and that one is perfect for sparks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fjällräven View Post
    Great review.

    Xunil, have you tried the Temagami with a firesteel? How does it work?

    At Helle´s webpage they say that the striking feature doesnt work the way the intended http://www.helle.no/Default.aspx?tab...language=en-US

    I have the Helle Eggen, a great knife that looks a lot like the Temagami, but I miss a carbon steel blade for firesteel use.
    Here's how I strike a spark on a ferro rod using a carbon steel Temagami.


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