Rough Close ~ March '11

[Karl82]

This meet im going to do a 15 pice kit challange im setting myself meaning i can only take 15 items with me to the meet, excluding food drink and clothes, stove and fule is one item as is wash kit and first aid kit but only items relating to each are alowed in it so no hiding a spork in the kit's. everything else is one item, for example spork item1 cup item 2 tarp item3 and so on. forgot to mention your pack is also one item.
anyone else want to try this with me?

[Andy2112]

This meet im going to do a 15 pice kit challange im setting myself meaning i can only take 15 items with me to the meet, excluding food drink and clothes, stove and fule is one item as is wash kit and first aid kit but only items relating to each are alowed in it so no hiding a spork in the kit's. everything else is one item, for example spork item1 cup item 2 tarp item3 and so on. forgot to mention your pack is also one item.
anyone else want to try this with me?

Post-it notes at the ready!!!!! Don't worry, we'll sing songs about you if we can remember any, lol.

Has Tank and myself's Summer Challenge got you thinking Karl?

[Andy T]

i hope he means 14 items ................and a blow poker !

[Andy2112]

i hope he means 14 items ................and a blow poker !

I brought along my blow poker at NW, couldn't get it out of his hands, he sat against a tree rocking and muttering and hugging it, lol

[sasquatch]

This meet im going to do a 15 pice kit challange im setting myself meaning i can only take 15 items with me to the meet, excluding food drink and clothes, stove and fule is one item as is wash kit and first aid kit but only items relating to each are alowed in it so no hiding a spork in the kit's. everything else is one item, for example spork item1 cup item 2 tarp item3 and so on. forgot to mention your pack is also one item.
anyone else want to try this with me?

Erm, bergen, tarp, sleeping bag and 12 Carling for me? I'm well up for some minimal meets when it's a bit warmer, I reckon I could do it with practically nothing. I'd be saving the Coventry Dominos on my phone first though!

15 items in March would be a good challenge but I'll bow out of this one for now. I was planning on bringing kit to play with this time round. Good plan though Karl, I'm sure you'll do it no worries.

[decorum]

This meet im going to do a 15 pice kit challange <<<

Do you mean that your food is one of the fifteen ~ with stove, tarp, clothes, FAK as more 'ones' of the fifteen?

From what you listed. you're only really missing kip kit and a knife .

>>> your pack is also one item.

Packed or unpacked?

[MartinK9]

This meet im going to do a 15 pice kit challange im setting myself meaning i can only take 15 items with me to the meet, excluding food drink and clothes, stove and fule is one item as is wash kit and first aid kit but only items relating to each are alowed in it so no hiding a spork in the kit's. everything else is one item, for example spork item1 cup item 2 tarp item3 and so on. forgot to mention your pack is also one item.
anyone else want to try this with me?

Would love to; but with 12 knives to sell I'd just have a bergen and jervens bag left

[decorum]

... stove and fule is one item ...

As ground fires must be raised and contained a fire box/jerry can/bbq shouldn't count as an item ~ but any detachable racks
and/or accessories should.

[Karl82]

food and drink are not apart of the 15 items. clothes are not part of the 15 items. my kit list is as follows.
1:Pack
2:tarp
3:hammock
4:rollmat
5:underblanket
6:sleepingbag
7: methsburner + fule as my original post this is one item no pots included or alowed.
8:firesteel
9:spork
10:crusaidercup
11:Knife
12:waterbottle
13:first aid kit [no items in the kit that are not to do with first aid]
14:wash kit [no items in the kit that are not to do with persional hygine]
15:chair

as phil said stove and fule is one item so jerry can bricks and wood one item rack/grill would be another item.

yes Andy i got the idea of yours and Tims summer challange im going to do that one two but wanted to do a winter test to.

[Twodogs]

Karl just do what some people do turn up with nowt and blag food and kit off your mates then dont pay up for said kit ..... ,,,urban bushcraft ,,,works for some
Twodogs

[Karl82]

lol Clif you offering me a room ro rent in your new massive Lavvu i will pay with labour collecting wood splitting wood and keeping the stove stoked just thik it could be a happy ending.

[nolightweight]

Karl just do what some people do turn up with nowt and blag food and kit off your mates then dont pay up for said kit ..... ,,,urban bushcraft ,,,works for some
Twodogs

Hearing you there, Bro.

"Jack Bushcraft"

[Muddy Boots]

food and drink are not apart of the 15 items. clothes are not part of the 15 items. my kit list is as follows.
1:Pack
2:tarp
3:hammock
4:rollmat
5:underblanket
6:sleepingbag
7: methsburner + fule as my original post this is one item no pots included or alowed.
8:firesteel
9:spork
10:crusaidercup
11:Knife
12:waterbottle
13:first aid kit [no items in the kit that are not to do with first aid]
14:wash kit [no items in the kit that are not to do with persional hygine]
15:chair

as phil said stove and fule is one item so jerry can bricks and wood one item rack/grill would be another item.

yes Andy i got the idea of yours and Tims summer challange im going to do that one two but wanted to do a winter test to.

Pitch your hammock right and you could dispense with the chair and put in a head torch maybe?

The light pollution in this part of the world though means it's not critical.

[Karl82]

go without a chair i dont think so ill dump the roll mat

[Mesquite]

Personally, I'd say the FA kit was an essential like clothes and food so it shouldn't be counted as one of your 15 items

[Karl82]

i like your thinking Mesquite im going to adopt your rule. my reasion you should never cary a knife without a first aid kit thats a golden rule.

list mended

1:Pack
2:tarp
3:hammock
4:rollmat
5:underblanket
6:sleepingbag
7: methsburner + fule as my original post this is one item no pots included or alowed.
8:firesteel
9:spork
10:crusaidercup
11:Knife
12:waterbottle
13:Head tourch
14:wash kit [no items in the kit that are not to do with persional hygine]
15:chair

[Muddy Boots]

i like your thinking Mesquite im going to adopt your rule. my reasion you should never cary a knife without a first aid kit thats a golden rule.

list mended

1:Pack
2:tarp
3:hammock
4:rollmat
5:underblanket
6:sleepingbag
7: methsburner + fule as my original post this is one item no pots included or alowed.
8:firesteel
9:spork
10:crusaidercup
11:Knife
12:waterbottle
13:Head tourch
14:wash kit [no items in the kit that are not to do with persional hygine]
15:chair

You've said food and drink are not part of the list fella.

You might as well drop the water bottle off then really.

Ok and I take it the crusader cup is what you are cooking in?

You intending on holding it over the meths burner with your hand?

[Karl82]

nope water bottle has to stay as it counts i ment coffe and hot choclat dosent count as a item. i dont need to hold my crusaider cup on the meths burner i just put it on it as its one of AndyT's budwiser meths stoves the handles dont get hot

[Muddy Boots]

You're making this up as you go along I'm not playing anymore.

[Karl82]

lol no im not Dave you need a water bottle to carry your water in so it counts or else ill be running off to the tap every time i want a coffe of i would have to do a bear and drink my urine and thats not happening.

[decorum]

...
as phil said stove and fule is one item

Nope, you said it ~ I just quoted you .

so jerry can bricks and wood one item

But I did say:

As ground fires must be raised and contained a fire box/jerry can/bbq shouldn't count as an item

.

so jerry can bricks and wood one item

If you're counting the use of bricks and wood as part of a wood burning combo item, does that mean poles/pot hangers/pegs sourced/made on site count as items and cannot be used if you have your allocated 15?

[Andy BB]

I'm in for this one, work permitting. I shall be limiting my kit to just 4 items (assuming a full rucksack counts as one item.................) Oh, plus tent, so that makes 5 items.


Decorum
MartinK9
Mesquite
Snarf (tbc)
TinkyPete (TBC due to work)
Sasquatch
dave53
Karl82 all 3 nights
Elines (TBC)
Man of tanith
John Fenna
Andy T
Dr Jones
Cliv
Twodogs ( arrive Sat am )
Muddy Boots arriving friday
Andy2112 (Sat am)
Ratbag + Ratbag Junior - arriving Saturday
Andy BB (TBC)

[Karl82]

no if you make a pot hanger on site its not counted as a item as you did not carry it in with you you used your bushccraft skills and made it on site. if you however carry it in it counts.

[nolightweight]

So the crusader mug is your boiling vessel and eating vessel.

Will you only be cooking only what you can cook in the mug, or going off and having a 3 course slap up elsewhere (using only the mug of course) whilst you toast you tootsies around someone else's fire?

[Muddy Boots]

no if you make a pot hanger on site its not counted as a item as you did not carry it in with you you used your bushccraft skills and made it on site. if you however carry it in it counts.

If you go for a dump how does that count then?

Technically you carried it in but also made it there?

[Karl82]

fair comment on no ground fires phil, fire box and brix or bbq will count as one item if you bring in the wood as you brought in fule. if you source wood on site it wont count as no ground fires are alowed i did not take that into account sorry my mistake.

[Karl82]

ok i have reread my original post and i wasent clear on the drink part meaning coffe and such added to water so im going to take Daves point its drink and take it off the list as a item so now the mended list is.

1:Pack
2:tarp
3:hammock
4:rollmat
5:underblanket
6:sleepingbag
7: methsburner + fule as my original post this is one item no pots included or alowed.
8:firesteel
9:spork
10:crusaidercup
11:Knife
12:Head torch
13:first aid kit [no items in the kit that are not to do with first aid]
14:wash kit [no items in the kit that are not to do with persional hygine]
15:chair

[decorum]

... if you source wood on site it wont count as no ground fires are alowed i did not take that into account sorry my mistake.

No worries ~ just fleshing the idea out .


When you say 'fire steel' do you mean flint and steel (with pouch) or ferro / mische rod? The first requires greater skill ~ and needs coal extenders (hence the pouch being mentioned).

[Karl82]

ill be useing a ferorod as im useing meths but a traditional pouch i think would count as one item as its the same as a modern lighter just req alot more skill.

PS im off to get food and go to bed got a early and long day again tomorrow so i will answear any more question/queries when i get on tomorrow.

[decorum]

... i will answear any more question/queries when i get on tomorrow.

Are you going to disallow the use of items which are bought/traded at the Meet?