Dutch army hooped bivi

[Mike8472]

After my deliberations over which bivi to buy Snugpak stratosphere or british army hooped bivi there has now been a spanner thrown into the works.

After deciding on the british army one I saw that Endicotts sell them, so after a phone conversation with Kev he mentioned the Dutch Army hooped version. He said that they were far superior to the British versions in terms of build quality and features. I understand they are made by Carinthia and the civilian versions are over £300 to buy.

Has any one on here used/own one?
Are they superior to British version?

Would the dutch be a better investment?
Any one got any pics of them set up?

[Ahjno]

I know from the Dutch Bushcraft Forum (NBF) that ddokkum (Dennis) has (had) a double hooped one. If no one else knows, maybe he could tell you more if you drop him a line.

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/member.php?u=6137

[w00dsmoke]

Not as big as the UK one but far superior in EVERY way.

WS

[Mike8472]

Thanks Johan, just sent PM to ddokkum.

[shogun]

i have been looking at the dutch bivi..i was going too get the british one..but i have settled on this one as...atb shogun..this is the only pic i can find...

[Miyagi]

I'm very tempted by the bivi's, especially the Dutch one.

However, now that I take a bushcraft mutt with me everywhere it's impractical.

I can't really bushcraft without him, as it was walking him in the first place that kind of gave me the appreciation of the wild that I have now. Plus, the neighbours (and the remains of my flat) don't appreciate him being left on his own.

The cheap tunnel tent I use is bigger (though not as well built and will deffo fail) and allows me to sit up and get dressed etc., and I can get the mutt to move around and warm cold spots.

Using a bivi also reminds me of living under an Army poncho, in a shell scrape with SLR and webbing...

Still want one though...

[shogun]

yeah m8 i like too take the dog with me too but i am still going too get a dutch bivi

[Shewie]

After my deliberations over which bivi to buy Snugpak stratosphere or british army hooped bivi there has now been a spanner thrown into the works.

After deciding on the british army one I saw that Endicotts sell them, so after a phone conversation with Kev he mentioned the Dutch Army hooped version. He said that they were far superior to the British versions in terms of build quality and features. I understand they are made by Carinthia and the civilian versions are over £300 to buy.

Has any one on here used/own one?
Are they superior to British version?

Would the dutch be a better investment?
Any one got any pics of them set up?

Have you got a link Mike ? I can't find them on Kevs site, does he stock them ?

[Miyagi]

yeah m8 i like too take the dog with me too but i am still going too get a dutch bivi

Let me know how you get on Shog's.

He's a curious mutt and loves long walks and hunting. As the woods come awake (he fights sleep as it is even after a long walk), he's bad enough in a tent, sniffing at the door, tramping over me/leaning on me to face a new sound etc.

Hmmm maybe a bivi is a good thing!!!

I'd let him roam as he always comes back, but at 18months old he's an awfy one for getting into scrapes, cuts, stuck etc.

Cheers,

Liam

[Mike8472]

Shewie,
Kev's not got any; he did a little while ago though. was offered a couple as a trial but hasn't had any since.

they are very dificult to get hold of, in decent condition and fully intact it seems.

[nolightweight]

No connection to either etc. Info only:

http://www.genuinearmysurplus.co.uk/...ail/rowid=1715

http://www.ukkitmonster.com/product_...Csid=qvxpyvhan

[nevetsjc80]

Im so glad this came up, ive been sleeping under a tarp with a standard british army bivvi bag for years but now i have a dog need something where i dont keep waking up worried my dogs gone walk about. I was thinking a hillieberg akto but there is a hooped bivi on ebay i like does anyone know if either are any good for one person plus dog?

https://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/webp...idPromotion=-1


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Goretex-double...item2306878cae

Hope this isnt taking over the thread if so i will change

[Miyagi]

Im so glad this came up, ive been sleeping under a tarp with a standard british army bivvi bag for years but now i have a dog need something where i dont keep waking up worried my dogs gone walk about. I was thinking a hillieberg akto but there is a hooped bivi on ebay i like does anyone know if either are any good for one person plus dog?

https://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/webp...idPromotion=-1


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Goretex-double...item2306878cae

Hope this isnt taking over the thread if so i will change

Whichever you buy, get a two person tent as a minimum. You'll need room for you, your gear and a possibly wet and bedraggled dog.

I have a Pro Action Cross (Argos cheapo) tent that tapers to a "V" at the back. Not quite big enough for me and the mutt but just about.

Do what I do and use a cheapo tesco synthetic sleeping bag, spread out as a carpet - it absorbs wet dog and dries very quickly when slung over a branch etc. Its easier to bung in the washing machine than a tent.

Hope this helps,

Liam

Edited to add;

A dog'll likely damage/wreck an expensive tent in some way; claws on the groundsheet, possibly peeing on the outer - to mark it as "his tent - not yours". He may also explode through the doorway and you, until he learns to sit and wait until he gets the go ahead to enter or leave.

They have a nasty habit of bumping into the last of your water or "just about ready" food or brew on the go.

Good ventilation in a tent is a must. A dog who's back end is backfiring through the night is no fun let me tell you.

[nevetsjc80]

All good point, right the start begins all over agin but for a two man
Cheers for the help

oh forgot to mention he is only a terrier so is small

[Mike8472]

my dutch bivi arrived today. i think i'll post some initial pics tonight when i get home from work

[Mike8472]

As promised the pics of my shiney new toy!
just unpacked it in the house now.
Usage pics will follow after my next camping trip soon.

Pic of the label on the sack and also the sac itself. I like the fact that it has two compression straps on it.

The next two are of the contents:- The poles in factory bag and are pre-curved. The bivi itself with the factory plastic retaining strap to keep it all together.