karabina

[dave53]

hi all i was looking for some small karabinas to hang my tarp as i saw thoth had modded his he said alpkit sold them for about 50p each anyway couldnt find them so heads up screw fix sell them in packs of 10 for £2.95 for3/16"they call them snap hooks quote 74155 for that size, go to your local store as they charge £5 postage
they do have other sizes i thought i would let you all know
regards dave

[MrEd]

if your putting your weight on the tarp you want proper weight bearing ones

[jdlenton]

if your putting your weight on the tarp

have you got a setup like this ? never seen one where the ridge line holds up a person sounds like an interesting concept

ow and thanks for the heads up on screwfix

[MrEd]

have you got a setup like this ? never seen one where the ridge line holds up a person sounds like an interesting concept

ow and thanks for the heads up on screwfix

Ok i substituted the word 'tarp' for 'hammock' in my head lol

in which case small non-weight bearing carabiners will work, i use 2 for my tarp,



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fail lol :S

[Nat]

Ok i substituted the word 'tarp' for 'hammock' in my head lol

in which case small non-weight bearing carabiners will work, i use 2 for my tarp,



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fail lol :S

Fail indeed

[maddave]

What Mr Ed says.... You may find yourself in the dirt my friend. There are enormous forces at work when you get in a hammock. I'm sure someone knows the maths but it's something like every kilo of downforce is multiplied by the distance between points of suspension..

Look at the pic below. Your Karabiner should be stamped with a weight rating in Kilo newtons (Kn). If there are no markings or they have "not for climbing" stamped on. I'd be more likely to kepp your keys on them or use them as gear clips under your tarp.
For every kn of pressure, it may hold 225 lbs of weight? So for instance, if you had a caribiner, that was rated at 25 kn. Could it hold an inanimate object that weighs roughly 5500 lbs

[Fredcompanybushcraft]

That's one BIG karabiner!

[leon-1]

The ones you couldn't find on Alpkit are here

[dave53]

guys they are for suspending your tarp from a line and nothing else ma be i was not clear enough
regards dave

[leon-1]

guys they are for suspending your tarp from a line and nothing else ma be i was not clear enough
regards dave

Dave, it was one mistake that has cascaded and the person in question has tried to explain.

Ok i substituted the word 'tarp' for 'hammock' in my head lol

in which case small non-weight bearing carabiners will work, i use 2 for my tarp,

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As the others have said though thanks for the heads up on ScrewFix.

Unfortunately it would cost me more to get to the nearest ScrewFix than it would to actually buy 15 from alpkit and have them delivered as the delivery is in with the cost.

That was my reason for posting the link in the post above yours.

[Seoras]

The ones you couldn't find on Alpkit are here

Hi Leon

Just what I was looking for mate.

I have 6 packs of the small ones on order. They will be used in my parachute system to do away with guy lines leading down to the ground.

Cheers

George

[dave53]

thanks leon1 ah clippers ,snap hooks karabinas so confusing noughf said
regards dave

[Melonfish]

i'd still say get some decent Karabina's for your Tarp, remember if a sharp wind comes through the weight load on your tarp is going to increase a fair amount, even more so if its raining

[leon-1]

i'd still say get some decent Karabina's for your Tarp, remember if a sharp wind comes through the weight load on your tarp is going to increase a fair amount, even more so if its raining

I have used these on my tarp all year round for at least the last 2 years and "touch wood" I haven't had a problem with them yet. If you have concerns then use two of them back to back (so the gates face in opposite directions) as you would with snapgates to make them more secure. With this method you get the extra strength but you still keep both the size and weight down to a minimum.

[Huon]

Unfortunately it would cost me more to get to the nearest ScrewFix than it would to actually buy 15 from alpkit and have them delivered as the delivery is in with the cost.

That was my reason for posting the link in the post above yours.

Hi Leon,

Screwfix also deliver. You can find them here: www.screwfix.co.uk. I haven't checked to see how their delivery costs compare to Alpkit's.

FYI, I have also used the Alpkit version on my tarp with no problems.

Cheers!

Huon

[leon-1]

Hi Leon,

Screwfix also deliver. You can find them here: www.screwfix.co.uk. I haven't checked to see how their delivery costs compare to Alpkit's.

FYI, I have also used the Alpkit version on my tarp with no problems.

Cheers!

Huon

Hi Huon, dave mentioned the postage in his initial post.

hi all i was looking for some small karabinas to hang my tarp as i saw thoth had modded his he said alpkit sold them for about 50p each anyway couldnt find them so heads up screw fix sell them in packs of 10 for £2.95 for3/16"they call them snap hooks quote 74155 for that size, go to your local store as they charge £5 postage
they do have other sizes i thought i would let you all know
regards dave

This means that for £7.50 delivered I can get 15 from Alpkit or 10 from Screwfix for £7.95 delivered.

It may work out better with higher quantities, perhaps on a group buy where a lot of them are being bought and possibly talking to screwfix to see at what level / quantity they will give a discount for higher amounts / numbers.

The only problem that I then see is the redistrobution. So to make it viable would be arrange a meet and ask the members of the meet who would like to be in on a group buy and see whether it's worth it.

[MrEd]

or get these from clas ohlson if they are non weight bearing applications your using them for

30 carabiners assorted sizes £8
http://www.clasohlson.co.uk/Product/...x?id=143388265

6 assorted carabiners £3
http://www.clasohlson.co.uk/Product/...x?id=143388250

[Mesquite]

Hi Huon, dave mentioned the postage in his initial post.

This means that for £7.50 delivered I can get 15 from Alpkit or 10 from Screwfix for £7.95 delivered.

It may work out better with higher quantities, perhaps on a group buy where a lot of them are being bought and possibly talking to screwfix to see at what level / quantity they will give a discount for higher amounts / numbers.

The only problem that I then see is the redistrobution. So to make it viable would be arrange a meet and ask the members of the meet who would like to be in on a group buy and see whether it's worth it.

If folks were interested in this I'd be happy to sort out purchasing the screwfix ones. I've got a shop 5 minutes from me so it wouldn't be any trouble to pop along and buy them and then post on. I'm pretty sure I could beat their P&P.

[bigandy]

That's one BIG karabiner!

its the one i would need to suspend my hammock!!!

[nitrambur]

or get these from clas ohlson if they are non weight bearing applications your using them for

30 carabiners assorted sizes £8
http://www.clasohlson.co.uk/Product/...x?id=143388265

6 assorted carabiners £3
http://www.clasohlson.co.uk/Product/...x?id=143388250

But Clas Ohlson don't deliver at all

[MrEd]

no, very true, they are becoming more widespread though

[leon-1]

If folks were interested in this I'd be happy to sort out purchasing the screwfix ones. I've got a shop 5 minutes from me so it wouldn't be any trouble to pop along and buy them and then post on. I'm pretty sure I could beat their P&P.

That's a generous offer Steve and people would be daft not to take you up on it if they are in need of these.

[Mesquite]

This means that for £7.50 delivered I can get 15 from Alpkit or 10 from Screwfix for £7.95 delivered.

Went and bought a pack for myself and they're not too bad. Weigh in at about 9grm each and are probably a lot stronger than their equivelant size in aluminium.

If folks do want some I can do the M4 size for £3.90 per pack of 10 including P&P 2 packs for £7.00. Just drop me a PM

[MartinK9]

Snap hook size comparison:

2p for scale

Top to bottom M10 M8 M6 M4:




HTH

[Mesquite]

Snap hook size comparison:

2p for scale

Top to bottom M10 M8 M6 M4:




HTH

Looks like you've popped into screwfix Martin

[MartinK9]

Looks like you've popped into screwfix Martin

Yep,

Got a pack of each, how could you tell?