Wild Boar / Beavers, etc

[Cael Nu Mara]

My guide carried an AK47

My Dads hunted alot in the bushvelt, he carried a .450 Nitro Express H&H Double. He once saw a guide who carried a klashnikov get mauled by spots when it when "click" :l Not a serius gun for africa. PH's/Guides should carry nothing less than a .375, look at Pondoros teachings. Basically, you may feel safe when you guide looks like Che Geuvara, but its probably not going to work as well as you hope when M'bogo or his mates come a calling




Sam

[Doc]

My Dads hunted alot in the bushvelt, he carried a .450 Nitro Express H&H Double. He once saw a guide who carried a klashnikov get mauled by spots when it when "click" :l Not a serius gun for africa. PH's/Guides should carry nothing less than a .375, look at Pondoros teachings. Basically, you may feel safe when you guide looks like Che Geuvara, but its probably not going to work as well as you hope when M'bogo or his mates come a calling




Sam

I vaguely remember reading that .375 magnum is the 'minimum' calibre for buffalo.

If the aforesaid beastie was hurtling towards me I think I would find that term less than reassuring.

[Cael Nu Mara]

I vaguely remember reading that .375 magnum is the 'minimum' calibre for buffalo.

Bang on Doc, most PHs (Professional Hunters) carry a large "stopping" calibre ie .416 Rigby or bigger. I Have fired a .600 Nitro express double, firing 550grn bullets :O That made my .375 H&H feel like a pea shooter. Up for sale at Holts next week(?) is Denys Finch Hatton's rifle (the guy in out of afrika, as well as a dangerous game legend) its a .450NE double by Charles Lanaster, i think, i hope Father Christmas comes early


Sam

[_scorpio_]

its because all people want is an exact replica of what has been for the last few centuries. its like the struggle to keep pandas alive. if they wont breed then thats their fault and they are supposed to become extinct. people need to understand that things change.
the re-introduction of species doesn't usually cause too big a problem.its the introduction of non-native species for instance grey squirrels were not native before they were introduced to the UK. but one of the most common countryside animals, the rabbit, was actually quite a good introduction until someone decided they were adorable and therefore shouldn't be eaten. i say let things happen how they would happen if we weren't here and accept it without interfering

[Oblio13]

... we are not allowed to hunt. We are not even allowed to carry tools with which to defend ourselves....

Maybe it's time to get to work putting that right.

[TeeDee]

Just saw this , i don't have a view either way ( i think .)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8436670.stm

[Kevin McNamara]

bring back cave bears, is what i say.
but really, we cant go back, only preserve what we have. adding anything else to the mix means its very difficult to predict what will happen.

[_scorpio_]

bring back cave bears, is what i say.
but really, we cant go back, only preserve what we have. adding anything else to the mix means its very difficult to predict what will happen.

i think we should have the wolves back as well.. and dodos... and that giant prehistoric ox whose name i cant remember. then we will see who is culling who!
lol

[BushEd]

misplaced nostalgia and ill-thought out schemes are one thing...but advocating the way things are now out of pessimism seems just as ridiculous to me.

i think we can all agree that the real problem is the way in which Western society operates; it just isn't very compatible with wildernesses - it seeks to control, which is pretty much the polar opposite.

but i don't think that means we should give up, resign oursevles to smug cynicalism. culling bull idea's like the E.U. Common Agricultural Policy, and the whole ethos of turning Earth into something human is the start. population decrease would follow as soon as people turned away from the acquisitional mode of thinking which has dogged us since someone differentiated between the have's and the have not's.

Thats my lunatic 2cents

[durulz]

I know it's very immature of me, but am I the only one (in a fart/poo/wee wee kind of way) who giggles everytime I hear the word 'beaver'? Even if being used in a perfectly acceptable manner.

[Adze]

(in a fart/poo/wee wee kind of way)

Smirks certainly... I definitely don't giggle as hard as it sounds like you do

[TallMikeM]

I know it's very immature of me, but am I the only one (in a fart/poo/wee wee kind of way) who giggles everytime I hear the word 'beaver'? Even if being used in a perfectly acceptable manner.

nope, not just you. Also, ever since seeing a sketch by the big yin, I also giggle like a schoolgirl at the word badger.

Hopefully the day I don't take a childish delight in silly things is the day I'm stuck in the ground.

[durulz]

When we went to see HRH Ray Windsor-Mears I kept nudging my friend and saying, 'he just said 'beaver'.'
I think it started to annoy him after a while. Still, it made me giggle.

[pitta-pitta]

Mind you once upon a time we used to have Rhinos here - probably best we don't take this too far! I like the idea of Boars and Wolf here though. Why not? We made them extinct.