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    Dr Barrie Andrian of the Scottish Crannog Centre has asked if I could post the following here and on SotP

    Build a Bronze Age Logboat
    The logboat project is being run jointly between the Scottish Crannog Centre and the Perth and Kinross Heritage Trust who have commissioned prehistoric woodworking specialist Damian Goodburn. He will lead the work to recreate as closely as possible the Bronze Age Carpow logboat which was raised from the River Tay last year and is undergoing conservation at the National Museums of Scotland. Participants will use a range of hand tools including replica Bronze Age axes, adges and chisels.

    There are still a few places left for volunteers, who must commit at least 5 consecutive days during the following periods: 11-15th August; 18-22nd; and 24t-29th August. For each session participants should arrive the night before (if not within easy travelling distance) and on-site camping is available. The location is the Forestry picnic site of Dalerb, near Kenmore, Loch Tay. Applications should be made to Ms Barrie Andrian: email info@crannog.co.uk or telephone 01887 830583.

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    ARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH

    Toddy you dont know how long i've been wanting to build a bronze age boat there is not a chance of me doing this though.

    Get in there guys it will be fantastic.

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    i will be seeing if i can get the time of :-) considering i have been away for a month and return to work on the 10th, i aint hopeful :-(

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    I see your putting my axe and adze to good use...

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    Ah, not for this.
    One I gave as a thank you to a very good friend who did a brilliant job of trueing it up. He refuses to see it soaked and cracked on the saturated and water filled log boats that have been chainsawn out. The other is going to a re-enactor, but I haven't gone looking for a helve for it yet though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdlenton View Post
    Toddy you dont know how long i've been wanting to build a bronze age boat

    Possibly since the Bronze Age

    I'll get me coat

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    Is that the thumping great logs that we hacked away at? I'd love to have another go, but can't get the time off.....

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    They are indeed. Two of them are now boats that were paddled across the loch to the Crannog a couple of months ago These ones were done by chainsaw, thus the need for them to be kind of trued up by hand to kind of remove the more obvious marks.

    The new project intends to use the other logs.

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    No, Im glad you are getting good use out of them.

    The axe head was a kentish pattern...not my thing. it had to come off the helve anyway...someone had put it on UPSIDE DOWN...

    But Im replacing it with another of a more to my likes design.

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    myself and belzeebob23 have spoke to Barrie and have agreed to go on the final week, 24th-29th.
    I am really looking forward to it....

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    Damian is an excellent woodworker (for an archaeologist) and knows more about early boatbuilding than pretty well anyone else out there. He is also very entertaining, you will have a great time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robin wood View Post
    Damian is an excellent woodworker (for an archaeologist) and knows more about early boatbuilding than pretty well anyone else out there. He is also very entertaining, you will have a great time.
    yeah i am sure we will have a blast, looking forward to learning about it all...... still hoping the weather is decent,

    is anyone else from here going?

    myself and belzeebob23 are trying to plan and arrange our supplies(food basically) and transport...... for food we are thinking of http://www.lookwhatwefound.co.uk

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    Hi all
    Thought i post a few pics from the building of the log boat where me, Iain and Andy spent a wet week last month.

    [IMG]http://lh3.ggpht.com/_jPImdoMLcZU/Spw1Gw4DzMI/AAAAAAAADUc/tfC0M-NYSIc/s576/resize%20lowresbronze%20age%20 boat%20044.jpg
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    Hope you enjoy
    here's the link for the web album http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/belzee...uh44Ow2NCg1QE#
    http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/belzee...aG3bKgt7nQ_gE#
    http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/belzee...PD9z7X0qt-mIg#

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    Nice one

    Went up to have a look at her last weekend.
    That was a power of work to turn thon huge log into a canoe
    She looks trim

    Now then, there are another three.........



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    You said it Toddy
    a power of work but must admit it was a good week
    I think everybody left on a high on the Sunday night after getting it into the water
    Their was a few blisters LOL

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    Looks like you guys had a great time - what a brilliant opportunity and nice boat
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    That's brilliant, good work everyone that worked You'd think it would roll,how stable is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    That's brilliant, good work everyone that worked You'd think it would roll,how stable is it?
    about as stable as a normal canadian
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    I see that the bottom of the log has been fashioned flat, hence the stability. Thames barges follow that theme too, incredibly stable up to a certain point.......then oops! Main brail quick!
    I like the pictures, no lifejackets......much faith in your work!

    On the sublect of the Longboat, I'm assuming this will be on a smaller scale than the 'Sea Stallion' that Wayland kindly showed us pictures of and was in the news last summer. ? Perhaps not though.

    I would like to see pictures of the intended hull shape. Is there a web addy?

    I was lucky enough to be able to restore a small Danish fishing boat some ten years ago and when I saw the clips of 'Sea Stallion' being researched and then built I could see all the principals in my head. They really have not changed construction methods at all except in the use of iron fastenings now replaced by copper, rudders have altered from steering oar to what we see today and of course power tools.
    All the shipwrights skills are used and these can't be replaced.

    I wonder if Tim Severin is quietly in the background?

    Off subject now, but I have a fantastic little set of pictures showing long pole lengths (some as long as 60') of timber being carted over Applecross in the 1960's before the road was improved. Shunting the timber using the rock face! This was for milling to create the vessel 'Malcombe Miller' being built at the time. I've managed 53' to date!

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    Have a look at the Galgael website Swyn, we put the first Birlinn (Scottish longship) into Scottish waters in 300 years on the Millenium Dawn, and we've built a lot more since then

    http://www.galgael.org

    cheers,
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    Last edited by Toddy; 13-09-2009 at 09:58.
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    the log boat came in around the 8 meter mark have you had a look at the online folder the links are at the bottom of my post.
    scott
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    Oh that looked such fun! Great pictures too. Let us know anytime anyone wants more help of this nature, now I am a bum I am rich in time, though relatively poor in suitable skills I suspect
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    Thanks for the links Toddy and belzeebob23

    I didn't realise that so many had been built Mary! Quite an organisation behind the scenes.

    I love the log launching pictures. That must have been such a good feeling along with the trepidation of how she will float!

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    Quote Originally Posted by swyn View Post
    Thanks for the links Toddy and belzeebob23

    I didn't realise that so many had been built Mary! Quite an organisation behind the scenes.

    I love the log launching pictures. That must have been such a good feeling along with the trepidation of how she will float!

    Swyn.
    it was a great finish to a week of hard work
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