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    Default A SEAL Pup Elite and some random skills

    Earlier today went out in the woods behind the house to practice a few things. Since I had been sent a SEAL Pup Elite I wanted to work with it for a bit and see what it could do, maybe see how much the new design was an improvement over the old one. I bought an original Pup seven or eight years ago at Ranger Joe's Down in Columbus Georgia a few months after I had bought an original SEAL 2000. Being at that time more used to seven inch and larger blades, I decided the 5 inch/ 13cm blade was just smaller than what I personally wanted. I preferred its bigger brother so I gave the pup to a friend a few months later. Since lately I have been studying techniques from across the pond trying to get more into working with smaller knives, working with them from a different perspective, I guess it was only natural that I work my way back to the pup eventually. Actually, it’s a pretty cool knife to work with. It wears very comfortably. It’s light enough that I even forgot I had it on my belt until I went to drive to the store and went to put the seat belt on so it’s definitely not going to wear you down on a hike. I took a few pictures while working with it.

    The first thing I saw and felt was the difference in the grip, the tapered shape of the new handle and the finger grooves it a very positive grip.










    Then checking out the edge I tried it out and cutting some fatwood shavings for use as tinder for lighting with a fire steel. It whittled the thin shavings I wanted easily. The good grip and shorter blade allow for excellent control.






    I noticed that the rasp spine had nearly the same profile as the sparker of a Swedish firesteel so I tried it out. It throws GREAT sparks using the rasp. It only took a few sparks and I had flames.






    You can see how the dust was left on the blade and on the spine.




    But it cleaned up with just a wipe on the pants leg, and only a little coating was worn off.




    The rasp also helped some when using the point in small tedious work. It gives a more positive grip when holding the knife by the blade itself. I made a line tensioner for tying out a tarp or poncho shelter.


    I started by splitting two sides off of a piece of Birch and then whittling it down flat. Then I used the tip to bore two holes. The tip did great and this whole thing only took about ten minutes.

    ***Note*** I meant to say that the trick to the tensioner is to not get your "working" hole too big, the line needs to fit in it snuggly and you should feel resistance when sliding it.






    Then I cut the end on the paracord so I could melt it into a clean end and put it through the holes. This thing has a great edge’






    This isn’t the greatest lighting for these pictures; I’ll try to take some better ones tomorrow. But here you can see if you look hard enough the tensioner slack and the tightened. So far I like this little knife and not wanting to give this one away any time soon.







    ****EDIT****

    Just wanted to add a few pics that add a different dynamic to this knife...making it a GREAT wilderness tool

    the addition of the SOG Power Lock. I'll post more with it later.







    Last edited by Mistwalker; 13-04-2009 at 21:40. Reason: To Add Some Pics
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    This was really interesting - thanks for doing it - I had always seen knives with serrations on the back as some kind of pointless Rambo clone but I can see the (good) reason for them on this knife

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elines View Post
    This was really interesting - thanks for doing it - I had always seen knives with serrations on the back as some kind of pointless Rambo clone but I can see the (good) reason for them on this knife
    Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I hope to get it out more later in the week.
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    Nice review there Mistwalker

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    I love the line tensioner

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    I got my brother a sog seal pup(his is not serrated) for his birthday about 8yrs ago,he uses it as a diving knife, its a nice, well made knife, that holds a good edge.

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    I was looking to get the older model Pup. I am not a fan of what SOG have done with the new SEAL, the old one was much better in grip and blade profile, and looked and felt much sturdier. This new Pup looks like the business though, and I'm glad they removed the serations from the blade. Good review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanD View Post
    I was looking to get the older model Pup. I am not a fan of what SOG have done with the new SEAL, the old one was much better in grip and blade profile, and looked and felt much sturdier. This new Pup looks like the business though, and I'm glad they removed the serations from the blade. Good review.

    Thanks all, glad you like. Actually with the pup you can get it with or without serrations on the blade edge...but not so with with the larger SEAL knife. I prefer a plain edge on my fixed blades and so far I am liking this one a lot.
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    I meant to say that the trick to the tensioner is to not get your "working" hole too big, the line needs to fit in it snugly and you should feel resistance when sliding it. I think I will edit that in now.
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    Just wanted to add a few pics that add a different dynamic to this knife...making it a GREAT wilderness tool. I edited these into the original post.

    the addition of the SOG Power Lock. I'll post more with it later.







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    I bought a seal pup with satin plain blade from over the pond about 12 months ago- a bargain considering the exchange rate at the time.(£43 delivered!)

    Its been out in the field a few times more on wild camps than bushy apps,echoing a few of Mistwalkers comments - strong blade, tip tougher than it looks, holds a great edge, rasp great with firesteel despite being aus8 and even sheathed is light & unobtrusive.

    I have added a two loops made from 1" nylon webbing on either side of the storage pocket (compass,aaa maglite,whistle & mirror stored in it) to hold a firesteel and gerber diamond sharpening rod.

    Well suited with the pup & it would double up as a great dive knife with a kydex 'groove' sheath. The only thing is it possibly looks a bit to 'military' for some bushtroops, but this doesn't bother me.

    Cheers all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Improviser View Post
    I bought a seal pup with satin plain blade from over the pond about 12 months ago- a bargain considering the exchange rate at the time.(£43 delivered!)

    Its been out in the field a few times more on wild camps than bushy apps,echoing a few of Mistwalkers comments - strong blade, tip tougher than it looks, holds a great edge, rasp great with firesteel despite being aus8 and even sheathed is light & unobtrusive.

    I have added a two loops made from 1" nylon webbing on either side of the storage pocket (compass,aaa maglite,whistle & mirror stored in it) to hold a firesteel and gerber diamond sharpening rod.

    Well suited with the pup & it would double up as a great dive knife with a kydex 'groove' sheath. The only thing is it possibly looks a bit to 'military' for some bushtroops, but this doesn't bother me.

    Cheers all
    Sounds like we think a lot alike
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    Yes, the sog is a good knife, I've had one for several years,
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    Spent a little more time tonight out back checking out the Pup. I was already out there for other reasons and since it has become a close companion lately....It just sort of happened.



    It started with "trimming" a Part of my Black Berry bush that had grown so much from the recent rains it was hanging out into the trail and nearly snagged me. The knife is just barely handle heavy by some people's tastes, right on for others.




    and holding the knife by the last two finger grooves it really does some nice quick snap cuts.




    I also held it like that to chop this Mimosa.




    Then, turning it as I did so, I trimmed it down in four quick cuts...you can see I was a little off with one of them.




    and made a good little baton. More on what I'm going to do with that tomorrow...when I can see, I've pulled enough thorns out of my legs tonight.

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    Ok...this is where the baton comes in, see... I have been paying attention...(sorry, the light was leaving so some of the pics have flash and some don't)







    And the Pup handled it just fine with no ill effects at all. However that rasp spine was pretty rough on the thin skin of that Mimosa limb.



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    Nice one MW.
    Looks like a real tough knife.
    Thats what I look for in a knife, something that can take some use and abuse when in the wilds, not something that looks pretty to sit in a cabinet.
    Thanks for taking the time to post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sapling View Post
    Nice one MW.
    Looks like a real tough knife.
    Thats what I look for in a knife, something that can take some use and abuse when in the wilds, not something that looks pretty to sit in a cabinet.
    Thanks for taking the time to post!
    Glad you liked it. The only "extra" time used was in the posting, and I like sharing what I find out...lol, the working with the knife itself is usually a pleasure. I have been a SOG fan for years now.
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    Nice bit of kit,not sure we get that sheath over here,I think it comes with a kydex one without the sharpening stone pocket,shame.
    Nice review,very informative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris the Cat View Post
    Nice bit of kit,not sure we get that sheath over here,I think it comes with a kydex one without the sharpening stone pocket,shame.
    Nice review,very informative.
    Chris.
    Thank you.

    I think that was the old style sheath that now has to be special ordered. I think they are all listed in the current catalog as coming with the nylon sheath. Of course it all depends on which and how many the people selling have in stock.
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    I may invest Mistwalker! Any probs with the Aus8 stainless? hold a good edge? what about sharpening in the field,any comments?
    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris the Cat View Post
    I may invest Mistwalker! Any probs with the Aus8 stainless? hold a good edge? what about sharpening in the field,any comments?
    Thanks.
    Chris.
    So far I haven't had to sharpen the edge yet...it still shaves but I haven't done a great deal with it yet...just a bit more whittling than what you have seen here.
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    I was sitting on the deck practicing some firecraft techniques with some different knives. I thought I'd post these to show that the SEAL Pup does have some bushcrafting value. The knife really is great to work with on tedious stuff, nice and light and doesn't fatigue the arm. A piece of Elm, a piece of Maple, and a piece of Sycamore.





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    I was cutting a piece of wire earlier today and after cutting it decided to test the Power Lock some. I cut and stripped some 12 ga copper wire, and the cut some 8 penny nails; common, finish, and galvanized steel it handled them all great with only a loss of some coating in the cutting area. I really like the gear drive, made cutting a breeze. As a note I have permanently damaged my old Leathermans doing this in a pinch at work. I also twisted one with no ill effects of the nose of the pliers. This sure seems to be a tough little multi-tool.











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    the problem with those flint strikers is that they make big scraps otu fo rod -_- i use a cut of saw blade ^^

    nice knife ^^ i might get one

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    Just wondering if there is a stated purpose for the 'hump' in the spine of the knife? i've not come across that before. Also, do you know the ridges on the spine marketed for anything in particular? Both unusual features!

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    Just like to add a tiny amount to that fantastic review if I may, in that I have one of these knives, and I really do find it excellent. It's as strong as a midget wrestlers forearm, superbly sharp, and so light you can carry it without weight penalty. I love the fact it does detail work so well, and not just the splitting tyoe chores you associate with a camp knife.

    As someone who has always had heavy knives in the past, this is the one that finally convinced me to trust the lightweight end of the spectrum.

    Brilliant piece of kit.

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