Possibles Pouch vs. Shirt Pockets

[TheViking]

I have often wondered: would it be best to keep the small, essential items in a possibles pouch (which there is a thread on right now) or in the shirt pockets??? :roll: :wink: It's easier to check contents and keep stuff together when they are in one single pouch, but if you lose the pouch you've got nothing left. This wouldn't happen if they were carried in the shirt pockets. :wink:

I am actually wondering what to do. It's a great pouch I have made last friday, but thinking off the advantages and disadvantages, I'm starting to doubt. :?:

And I will put up a pic of it + contents later today. :biggthump

[Kim]

I know people who regularly seem to loose things in their pockets!!!...let alone from anywhere else.

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[tomtom]

i prefer to ware light weight shirts.. t-shirts which dont normaly have pockets.. my preference is defonatly the pouch!

[MartiniDave]

I like a mixture of the 2 systems, but it does mean I end up with kit all over the place if I don't have a good sort out every so often. I'm planning to make some little chammy-leather bags to help keep stuff together in my pockets.

Dave

[Tantalus]

i am about as disorganised as they come

just as likely to pull 15 yards of binder twine out of my pocket followed by a box of matches and a couple of old dog treats while searching for my library card

i find little "packs" a great help

specially the belt type packs

they dont stop me stuffing odd things in my pockets but at least a pouch on my belt doesnt get mixed up with general clutter

even carry my keys on a carabiner on a belt loop

i often wonder what that must look like to a passerby as i check my keys are hanging there before i close the door

Tant wanders outside his front door and grabs his crotch before closing the door everyday?? Must look even worse if i am wearing a big sweater that covers the keys

but what the heck, my biggest worry is locking myself out rather than what the neighbours think of me

Tant

[Gary]

Little Viking, I like a pouch as it will always contain the essentials no matter what I wear. The problem with pockets is if its hot and you take off your jacket you (in theaory have to empty your pockets) while a simple pouch can be worn with a jacket or t-shirt and short it doesnt matter.

You can of course carry your possibles in your day sack, lets face it in UK and such places your hardly going to be seperated from them, but it is good practice to work a system that will work no matter where you are in the world and again the possibles pouch means that even if you loose your pack and Jacket you will still have your 'survival' gear strapped to your waist.

Just a thought.

[TheViking]

Little Viking, I like a pouch as it will always contain the essentials no matter what I wear. The problem with pockets is if its hot and you take off your jacket you (in theaory have to empty your pockets) while a simple pouch can be worn with a jacket or t-shirt and short it doesnt matter.

You can of course carry your possibles in your day sack, lets face it in UK and such places your hardly going to be seperated from them, but it is good practice to work a system that will work no matter where you are in the world and again the possibles pouch means that even if you loose your pack and Jacket you will still have your 'survival' gear strapped to your waist.

Just a thought.

Good thought. :wink: I can really see the advantages now apart from the ones i listed. While walking outside today with doggy, I figured out a system. SAK and big needle in it's leatherpouch in the belt. A SERE compass (Herbertz) and firesteel attached in loop around the neck. The rest in the possibles pouch. :biggthump

Some pics of the pouch I made in about 2 hours. It wasn't so painful as I expected, but it didn't get that beautiful either. But as Ray said to Gary on a Journeyman course about the knife: 'Don't worry about it. It's a tool, not a piece of art. :biggthump The same goes for this fellow.

I think the volume is about 1 litre or so. Just a guess. It's perfect size though. And no, I don't carry tobacco in the Watsons :wink: . It's charcloth and first aid kit. :-P







Cheers :uu:

[Gary]

beauty is in the eye of the beholder little viking and it looks a good pouch to me!

can you attach it to your belt?

[MartiniDave]

Very good there Andy!

Dave

[TheViking]

Yeah, but it would be bulky if I did attach it. The thing is that it's only a thin leather string. But perhaps I'll find a way to do it one day. :wink:

Thanks, both!

[tenbears10]

Looks good to me. Where did you get the leather from?

Bill

[tomtom]

looks Great to me Andy.. whats in your Wattson's tin?

[Paganwolf]

Lovely job Andy!! The old French Canadian trappers used to carve toggles and use them to fit burl cups and pouches to them selves by passing the toggle up under the belt, Just an idea :wink: but good job matie :wink:

[TheViking]

looks Great to me Andy.. whats in your Wattson's tin?

Did you read the post? :wink: :wink: :rolmao:

[tomtom]

:shock: apparently not well enough..

[leon-1]

Andy, I think the approach that is used in the All Kitted Out post of Outdoors Magazine is more what you should be looking at, a steady progression of kit and items that work from your person (in your clothing) to the light carried items (a possibles pouch) and then further on each being a supplement to the other.

I always carry bits on my belt and in my pockets (jacket, if I am wearing it and trousers) and I nearly always have a daysack with me with usable items in it. :wink:

[Nightfall]

I fall into the same frame of mind.I always have tinder, wetfire, knife and fire steel in my poctet. I have some of the same stuff in my possibles bag, day bag or rucksack.It may be overkill on some things,but on trail items get used, lost and sometimes broken. The pouch looks good Andy.

[RovingArcher]

Depending on how I'm dressed, jackets have watch caps and gloves, shirts carry medicine, pants carry kit and an old Gerber folding Gator's belt sheath holds utility knife, compass, fire tinder and firesteel.

[TheViking]

Andy, I think the approach that is used in the All Kitted Out post of Outdoors Magazine is more what you should be looking at, a steady progression of kit and items that work from your person (in your clothing) to the light carried items (a possibles pouch) and then further on each being a supplement to the other.

I always carry bits on my belt and in my pockets (jacket, if I am wearing it and trousers) and I nearly always have a daysack with me with usable items in it. :wink:

Well I have read the "All kitted out" article and I think there is too much! :wink: :roll: Sorry, I'm not the kind of guy that 'reads the book and make the kit' exactly as it says in the book. :wink: I like the military's setup: 1'st line, 2'nd line and 3'rd line. 1'st line is your uniform (my clothes). 2'nd line is your vest/basis (my possibles) and 3'rd line is your bergen (my rucksack). :biggthump

[leon-1]

The Viking, so am I, I spent 13 years in the military doing this pretty much the same way. We worked clothing, belt kit and bergan, but we also had things for other eventualities. Part of the bergan would also be a grab bag, or possibly you would have a grab bag strapped to the bergan itself depending on where you were and what you were doing at the time :wink:

[Neil1]

Viking,
Very nice work on the possibles bag, it looks good and is simple enough to do the job.
I use a similar possibles bag when I am bushcrafting, attached to my trouser belt, I rarely go far without my trousers :wink: and this is more secure than carrying it in your pockets.
Shirt pockets are fine, but as you swap shirts and jackets thru the day you have to remember to swap the kits over.
The All Kitted Out article is intended for "real-world" use and asks the reader to assess how much of their time they spend where, the usual answer is 60-80% of peoples time is spent in urban or semi-urban environment and the content of the kits reflect this. This is a survival article not a bushcraft piece.
A lot of the kit does cross-over, the 24 hour daypack is pretty much what I use for bushcrafting, but the two things are very seperate.
Well done again on the pouch.
Neil

[TheViking]

Part of the bergan would also be a grab bag, or possibly you would have a grab bag strapped to the bergan itself depending on where you were and what you were doing at the time :wink:

What I know as a break-away pack. B20 should have had one with fjellduken and extra ammo. :cry: :roll: But they didn't and as my signature says: every action has a consequence and that was definately true. :shock:

[TheViking]

The All Kitted Out article is intended for "real-world" use and asks the reader to assess how much of their time they spend where, the usual answer is 60-80% of peoples time is spent in urban or semi-urban environment and the content of the kits reflect this. This is a survival article not a bushcraft piece.

My thoughts too. As a survival kit, I pretty much like it, but not as bushcrafting. :wink: