Wayland woodlore

[scottishwolf]

When did Wayland start working for woodlore lol

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WAYLAND-WOODLORE-HANDMADE-BUSHCRAFT-STYLE-KNIFE_W0QQitemZ250303503027QQc mdZViewItem?hash=item250303503 027&_trkparms=72%3A1298|39%3A1 |66%3A2|65%3A12|240%3A1318&_tr ksid=p3286.c0.m14

[Wayland]

What!!!......

That settles it.. The World really has gone mad......

[Squidders]

Actually the name Wayland is/was generally more famed for being that of the Saxon god of metalworking, correct me if i'm wrong but this *may* predate Gary's desired nickname by a few years... not unreasonable to associate this with a knife I would think.

[spamel]

Actually the name Wayland is/was generally more famed for being that of the Saxon god of metalworking, correct me if i'm wrong but this *may* predate Gary's desired nickname by a few years... not unreasonable to associate this with a knife I would think.

That depnds if a Saxon God was wandering around with a Scandinavian style knife or not! It's fair to assume he probably wasn't.

[Wayland]

Actually the name Wayland is/was generally more famed for being that of the Saxon god of metalworking, correct me if i'm wrong but this *may* predate Gary's desired nickname by a few years... not unreasonable to associate this with a knife I would think.

It's also a town in the states but I doubt if that is the connection / endorsement being implied here.

[JohnC]

hes also been bringing out mugs

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HMP-WAYLAND-MU...d=p3286.c0.m14

[Paganwolf]

Actually the name Wayland is/was generally more famed for being that of the Saxon god of metalworking, correct me if i'm wrong but this *may* predate Gary's desired nickname by a few years... not unreasonable to associate this with a knife I would think.

Mind you onle a true egotist would think someone would do that because they had that handle on here and was a legend in their own lunch time eh lol

[spamel]

Tshhh! These modern day Vikings, so commercialised and mainstream! Whatever happened to good old fashioned Viking Values such as pillaging and razing?

[Wayland]

Mind you onle a true egotist would think someone would do that because they had that handle on here and was a legend in their own lunch time eh lol

I can always rely on you to take a pop can't I Paganwolf. Do remind me some time where I first rattled your cage won't you.

I refer you to my first post, "The World has gone mad" because I can't see why anyone would use my moniker as an endorsement.

If it was a serious link to the Saxon smith god then I would expect them to spell it correctly as Weland

As to use of my nickname, if you think this is my entire world you are sadly mistaken. I was give that name back in the eighties and have used it ever since in all walks of my life.

It's been used by over 50,000 school children for a start and is also known in the photographic and living history community far better than it is here.

As for being an egotist I'd like to know why you formed that opinion, because it is something that I am not often accused of to my face.

[Toddy]

I went to an Experimental Archaeology conference in Latvia last week.....guess whose image was on full display on the literature and the overheads from one of the Open Air Museum groups from Norway? Wayland. I thought as I saw it come up during the lecture, "Imagine coming all the way to Latvia to see Gary!"

Chill Gary, you are very good at what you do, and it's recognised throughout Northern Europe..........funnily enough the German blacksmiths knew you too and the Peruvian potter did as well.

cheers,
Toddy

[Wayland]

Hi Mary

How was the conference? I would have liked to be there myself.

[Toddy]

Very good A real mix of academic and craftsfolks.

Beautiful country, very proud of their independence and delighting in being themselves. They take their culture very seriously. Museums of farming life have 300 hectare of land and forests, over 100 wooden buildings some 80m long and over a 100 staff, and the government pays for it all. Never, ever, happen here.

Masses of woods that people actually use, lots of space, terribly flat though to our eyes, and dry........they said the British Isles catch the Atlantic rain for them
Very, very hospitable people, masses of meat, fish and thankfully, fresh veggies and fruits and flowers everywhere. And, I did buy amber in Riga :blush:

I kind of set the cat among the pigeons by taking issue with a German museum director who insisted that craftspeople were only there to produce work to someone else's research.
I calmly pointed out that he was missing the point; the vast majority of the craftspeople there were themselves academics who were more capable of producing 'relevant' research than museum staff. A show of hands re craftsfolk who were also academics kind of left him speechless

atb,
M

[Wayland]

I kind of set the cat among the pigeons by taking issue with a German museum director who insisted that craftspeople were only there to produce work to someone else's research.
I calmly pointed out that he was missing the point; the vast majority of the craftspeople there were themselves academics who were more capable of producing 'relevant' research than museum staff. A show of hands re craftsfolk who were also academics kind of left him speechless

Brilliant....

That's so often the problem with pure academics, they lose sight of the fact that some people have more hands on knowledge that they'll ever find in a book.

[JonnyP]

Can you please keep the thread on topic or I shall have to report you to Tomtom..

[Wayland]

Oops...Sorry....

[andy_e]

...I kind of set the cat among the pigeons by taking issue with a German museum director who insisted that craftspeople were only there to produce work to someone else's research.
I calmly pointed out that he was missing the point; the vast majority of the craftspeople there were themselves academics who were more capable of producing 'relevant' research than museum staff. A show of hands re craftsfolk who were also academics kind of left him speechless ...

Hahahahah! Good for you Toddy.

[jojo]

I wonder if a real viking would pillage such a valuable mug

Good on you Toddy. Pure academic do seem to have a tendency to think themselves a bit superior. I have never understood why it is that "academia & academics" or "art & artists" are thought to be more valuable than "craft & craftpeople" I know who I'd rather be with in a tight spot in the back of beyond!

Hi, Gary. There is a coach company around here called Wayland Coaches ( I think) Every time I see one, It brings out a mental picture of you in your viking costume, and of the picture of your knives and axe!

[ANDYRAF]

One of the boatyards down ere do a clinker built sailboat called a Wayland, very quick but a b***er to keep on track.

[Wayland]

hes also been bringing out mugs

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HMP-WAYLAND-MU...d=p3286.c0.m14

That is funny...

[andy_e]

So .... errr .... you got that nickname in the 80's ... was it umm ... Her Majesties pleasure to give you that nickname?

[robin wood]

Damian Goodburn wood expert of the Museum of London Archaeology service often seen on Time team chopping wood with big axe named his son Wayland (not sure how he spells it)

[Aaron]

Can you please keep the thread on topic or I shall have to report you to Tomtom..

Yeah, KNOCK IT OFF YOU LOT OR THIS THREAD GETS LOCKED

[Toddy]

I really, really hope that that was a tongue in cheek response........Bushcraft chatter rambles around a bit anyway and no one who is actively engaged in the thread has complained.
Wayland as a topic is interesting in it's interpretation and it's derivation. Norse God of smiths, English by adoption, a living history exponent of some repute.............all relevant.

Toddy

[sapper1]

I myself find Wayland as a person interesting.The amount of useful information he passes on is invaluable.

[BorderReiver]

Harking back to the first post, why do knife sellers make a point of saying "it's very sharp"?

What I want to know is, does it get sharp easily and stay sharp for a long time.

On Mary's tussle with the academic; a really sharp academic would realise that they could learn a lot from the crafts person's appliance of theories and findings, and indeed I think most of them do.

[sapper1]

I remember leting someone use my knife,he brought it back and was wearing a plaster.He said that it was very sharp,so I told him that he asked for a knife ,not a piece of metal.Do we really need to tell people that a knife is sharp,if it wasn't it wouldn't be a knife would it?

[BorderReiver]

I remember leting someone use my knife,he brought it back and was wearing a plaster.He said that it was very sharp,so I told him that he asked for a knife ,not a piece of metal.Do we really need to tell people that a knife is sharp,if it wasn't it wouldn't be a knife would it?

You have to remember that these days most people don't use "proper" knives anymore. Most folks knife experience is of table knives.

Unless you use a knife regularly as most of us on this forum do, you won't appreciate that an edged tool has to be sharp to work properly.

[Wayland]

So .... errr .... you got that nickname in the 80's ... was it umm ... Her Majesties pleasure to give you that nickname?

Fortunately not.....The full story actually has a double connection.

Firstly there was the fact that I was well known for metalworking in a Viking / Saxon living history context, but secondly there is a connection with my surname which is Waidson.

In Germanic mythology, Weland ( Occasionally called Wayland, Welund or Volund. ) was the son of the great sea giant Wade ( The same Wade that is reputed to have scooped out the Hole of Horcum with one hand to build a causeway across the moors. )

So.... Son of Wade = Waidson.

Someone pointed out this connection around a drunken campfire gathering many years ago and the rest as they say is history.

Most people that know me use that name now and I usually use it with the kids when I'm working "in character". I guess it says more about who I am than my given name now.

[Tadpole]

You have to remember that these days most people don't use "proper" knives anymore. Most folks knife experience is of table knives.

Unless you use a knife regularly as most of us on this forum do, you won't appreciate that an edged tool has to be sharp to work properly.

One of my In-laws has a fancy dandy set of pro-kitchen knives that he brags about, yet has to use a stanley knife to score the skin on his pork roast, as he can't get his kitchen knives to cut.
I guess it's what you are used to.

[heath]

I actually know the guy that made these knives (a really nice chap he is too) and I'm pretty sure ( I can check with him later ) it's a reference to Wayland/Weyland/wieland - or however else you want to spell it - Smith. He's a big fan of classical literature and I think I had a conversation with him about it once.