Netherlands camping buddies sought

[squantrill]

Hi.. Anybody in the northen part of the Netherlands up for some woodland overnighting and bushcraft activities I want to learn more and I find learning off others is easier than reading books. Missed the dutch meeting last month due to a sea kayaking trip around anglesey..

So anybody interested ??

Let me know.. If travelling to and from sites is a problem I have a car (or motorbike ) so I could pick up as long as its not to far away (more than 1.5 hours drive from flevoland)

hope to hear from you..

Simon

[stijnb]

hi, i live in noord holland, and don't have a car, but wil have an ov jaarkaart soon^^
maybe wa could organise another (smaller scaled, say 10 people?) buscraft meeting, just have to find a good location and weekend.....

[squantrill]

I guess that will be the only problem I live fairly close to the voorsterbos (within walking distance) but its full or art lovers at the moment due to an open air art exibition..
Not to familier with noord holland I know noord velsen from kayak surfing but dont know of any good spots.. maybe it is worth investigating something..

Who would we contact ? the monumentenbeheer the bosbeheer
I know that the wet over openluct recreatie is now void how would this effect overnighting in the woods ?

If you know that would be great then maybe we can get enough peopl interested to meet up some where..

Simon

[Jurjen Knoester]

Hey guys,

Sorry that you missed our meet last time, we'll organise another one for sure. But in the mean time, you might want to check out some "paal kampeer plaatsen" van staats bosbeheer. They tend to give you a very primitive camping place with the possibility to make a fire. try this link: http://www.staatsbosbeheer.nl/doen/o...-E4AA5B4B6B0A}

And good luck!

Jurjen

[Pantalaimon]

yeah, I've heard about them. Its a good initiative. But the rules are:
"Speciaal voor avontuurlijk ingestelde fietsers of wandelaars zijn er de paalkampeerterreinen, waar 'wild' gekampeerd mag worden. Ze liggen in open plekken in het bos of aan de bosrand nabij lange afstand wandel- en fietsroutes. Ze zijn niet per auto bereikbaar. Vanwege de geringe afmeting bieden ze plaats aan maximaal drie trekkerstenten die binnen een straal van 10 meter binnen de paal moeten staan. Er is in ieder geval altijd voldoende beschutting én de mogelijkheid om in de zon te zitten.
Open vuur is verboden en de enige voorziening is een waterpomp. Let wel: het water is er alleen om mee te koken of wassen. U kunt het niet ongekookt drinken. Deze terreinen zijn alleen te voet of per fiets bereikbaar. Het gebruik is gratis, maar beperkt: u mag er niet langer dan 72 uur bivakkeren. En wilt u uw afval weer meenemen? Reserveren is niet mogelijk. De paalkampeerterreinen zijn het hele jaar open, maar 's winters wordt de waterpomp verwijderd."

Open fire is prohibited. And that's good. It's probably a small grassfield, and I shouldn't like putting my tent up on a scorched field. Even if you remove the grass/humus it will cause damage to the field.

Rather do it in the woods near the 'polecampingground'. ;-)


For the curious English people: paalkampeerplaatsen( polecampinggrounds) are fields in some woods where you can go 'wild' camping. There are no toilets: only a waterpump with washing/cooking water (no drinkingwater) and they are free.
Especially good for people making a trip on a bicycle.


Oh, back on topic:
Good idea! I was thinking of something like that! Not too large: just when you and some other people have the time.
The spot is indeed a problem. Where I live, there aren't good spots. And while it will be decent to ask it to staatsbosbeheer of een andere beheerder, it isn't necessary as long as it's a bit isolated

[stijnb]

we could contact austerlitz http://www.pbcausterlitz.nl/ if we do some sort of meeting, but if we're with just 3 people or so it isn't a problem to go wild camping on the veluwe or something....

i would like to help organise some meeting,, just let me know....

[Pantalaimon]

we could contact austerlitz http://www.pbcausterlitz.nl/ if we do some sort of meeting, but if we're with just 3 people or so it isn't a problem to go wild camping on the veluwe or something....

i would like to help organise some meeting,, just let me know....

wauw! I didn't know they had that for non-members.
Again a good idea.

I'm not familiar with the Veluwe, but yesterday I was at the National Park De Hoge Veluwe, at that was not an option. Any woods nearby maybe. I'm planning to explore that soon :P De Veluwe is far more large than the NP.

[squantrill]

I tried out the natuurkamperen plaats in the voorsterbos, it was quite nice to camp only its not stricly speaking in the woods. its basically a cleared area in part of the woods i.e step from the grass to the woods in one step. It is kinda 4 euros per night and there is a place to put an open fire (and toilets) However this is a camping spot for those that like peace and quite. So you get a number of caravans although the times I have been there was me and most two other people. The place is limited I found one fairly good spot for the hammock but the rest is kinda a clover shape so you get nice secluded parts to put your tarp or tent. Although being near to the woods and dikes its filled with mozzies almost evey dusk and every morning. I guess if you were to venture out into the woods and set up camp there I dont think you would be interuppted..

I will help organise it if somebody comes up with a place

As you can probabaly tell I am English and trying to talk to stadsbeheer and others like them around here is prity useless

if anybody has canoes there are a number of islands that you can get to that we wouldnt be disturbed

[squantrill]

This is the local place I mentioned you can build a fire in the fire place.. Its 4 euros each its right in the woods so we could use this as base and hope ov er the ditch in to the woods
Might have to share with others though and of course ther eis no reserving so first come first serve but it seems to be never that busy..
Not quite wild camping but the closest I think we will get legally !

http://www.natuurkampeerterreinen.nl...j_id=390118270

[stijnb]

sounds great, but it will cost me over 40 euro's to get there and back by train(and bus) so better wait another month, so i'll have my ov-jaarkaart, or we could choose a "natuurkamping" near Noord Holland like Loosdrecht or Heemskerk......

austerlitz is still a possibilliti to, that's pretty much ment to be used for bushcraft....

[squantrill]

sounds great, but it will cost me over 40 euro's to get there and back by train(and bus) so better wait another month, so i'll have my ov-jaarkaart, or we could choose a "natuurkamping" near Noord Holland like Loosdrecht or Heemskerk......

austerlitz is still a possibilliti to, that's pretty much ment to be used for bushcraft....

Sounds good to me.. although I have a holiday next week back for two the two weeks in south of france.. so I think it will be like a month for me.. but we can do something out your way to, I can travel so no problems there just let me know the place we can meet up and thats sorted

[Pantalaimon]

Probably I'm going to explore this weekend the Veluwe(not the southern parts, because that are National Parks).
Feel free to join! If you're going by train, we could travel from Utrecht on my Kortingskaart (40% discount). I'm wasn't planning on a overnight trip, but if there's animo for, why not ?

[stijnb]

well this weekend, i have to work, so next time maybe.....

[puffie]

really, try a paalcamping, I've been to a few, most locations are nice, boil the water and you can use it, fire not a problem, and I think not forbidden, they iscerted a kind of concrete "hoops"to build your fire in. most of them I really enjoyed.
make it a part of a hike, walk from paalcamping to paalcamping.
but sometimes they are hard to find.
groeten

[stijnb]

if more people like to help organise something like dbm, pb plz.
We could create some sort of "denktank" and organise a small event, if it's a succes we might organise other events or maybe a trip to germany or belgium or so.........
2 or 3 other people would be great to get things done.

groeten,
stijn

[squantrill]

I can help not sure what I can do but I can help

[Jurjen Knoester]

Well, not sure if this is what you mean, but for the DBM winter edition I am looking 2 or 3 people who would like to be dagcoördinator. (one for each day). Where your role would be to make things go smooth, people can come to you with questions, and you make sure the programme gets known. Basicly you do what I did last time, but then for one day.

I think its a great idea to start doing this with more people.

[stijnb]

great, count me in:P

[squantrill]

Well, not sure if this is what you mean, but for the DBM winter edition I am looking 2 or 3 people who would like to be dagcoördinator. (one for each day). Where your role would be to make things go smooth, people can come to you with questions, and you make sure the programme gets known. Basicly you do what I did last time, but then for one day.

I think its a great idea to start doing this with more people.

I can also help might improve my dutch

[Nelis]

He Folks,

I'm from the south of the netherlands (oudenbosch, near roosendaal) and am looking for some people to come to the ardennes one of the next weekends.

I have a car that can carry 4 people in comfort (depending on the amount of luggage). I also know someone that ownes a piece of land in the ardennes where we can stay. Fire is a possibility on a predestined fireplace.
If necessary, I can pick people up at the train station in roosendaal. Extra cars can be left next to my house safely.

So if anybody is interested lets see if we can pick a date.

Grtz,

Niels

[squantrill]

He Folks,

So if anybody is interested lets see if we can pick a date.

Grtz,

Niels

Why do these things always happen when im on holiday 8( I would love to ome but!!! from friday I am in south of france for family holiday for two weeks.. If you have a date after that im game let me know..

Simon

[stijnb]

sounds great, but I will have to wait another few weeks, somewhere near the end of september would be good, but oktober is better since that's when i'm supposed to get my ov card...

[Nelis]

Hi Squantrill and Stijnb, I was hoping to go sometime sooner, but wouldn't mind going again sometime september or oktober. If we plan for end of september or the beginning of oktober, wich date would suite you best?

Let me know.... and I'll see if it is possible. In the ardennes we need to take the hunting season into account, when parts of the forest are closed. Wouldn't want to be in a dark forest with hunters around.

Also if there is anybody else who would want to go within say one to three weeks, let me know.

Grtz,

Niels

[squantrill]

Hi Squantrill and Stijnb, I was hoping to go sometime sooner, but wouldn't mind going again sometime september or oktober. If we plan for end of september or the beginning of oktober, wich date would suite you best?

Let me know.... and I'll see if it is possible. In the ardennes we need to take the hunting season into account, when parts of the forest are closed. Wouldn't want to be in a dark forest with hunters around.

Also if there is anybody else who would want to go within say one to three weeks, let me know.

Grtz,

Niels

Niels,

I get back 31 Aug so any weekend after that really sept might be best for me I need to check with the other half as we have a trip planned to the UK for birthdays and things (there usually all around october) but pencil me in for september or any time after August..

[Nelis]

Hi Folks,

I have found out that the location i had in the ardennes is no longer available. I haave however found another location near valkenswaard, wich is also used by the scouting. It is a piece of forrest where we can spend the night, and are allowed to build a fire. Also there is water available. but nothing else.

I have reserved the terrain for the weekend of the 26th to the 28th of september So if you want to come send me private message, and I'll mail tou ginving full contact details. I will need your full name, adress and phone number for the fire permit.

I will also start a new thread, maybe some more people will want to join.

Grtz,

Niels