StarCocoon Hammock Sleepng Bag".

[wanderinstar]

New product, new name.
Right an all enveloping bag that combines the qualities of the underblanket and quilt. It will be made from same materials as U/B and quilt.But the insulation will be Softie 6 instead of Softie 9. It will however have Reflectatherm built in to bring it back up to same spec but lighter. It will have 2 loops at each end to fasten to hammock rings. The top closure will be by full length zip. The zip will be able to zip down from the top and up from the bottom. So leaving an adjustable size hole for your face.
It should be lighter than U/B and Quilt combined.
Well that is the spec. Will be contacting Snugpak next week for a sample and cost.

Anyone interested?

[Aliwren]

Im not sure I understand how this works. Does the 'underblanket' base still go beneath the hammock meaning that the hammock is passed through the cocoon or does the whole cocoon go above the hammock similar to a sleeping bag?

If passed through wouldn't the edges of the hammock hold the top blanket away from you creating a space and affecting heat retention?

[Dougster]

I believe this will go both under and over the hammock as in a Cocoon, acting as underblanket and quilt.

Due to the height of the sides of the hammock I would have thought it would be possible to get another bag in if you needed and if not then have extra room in the summer. It would also mean you could get dressed in the warmth of the cocoon.

A great alround idea that I will watch with interest, the biggest factor for me will be the price tag

[widu13]

I've not got any imagination so would need to see a piccy!

[wanderinstar]

Dougster, you have the idea. Will have to be careful with width measurements, as this will obviously mean it will be too tight or have too much room above . But still air is an insulator and with the Reflectatherm it should make it quite toasty. In deep winter you could also use your u.b and quilt inside. But I MEAN deep winter.

[Aragorn]

Ian, sounds interesting, couple of things, you say the zips will allow you to create a hole for your face, if the top of the cuccoon is above the sides of the hammock are you going to be able to put your face through it, won't it be too far away and if left zipped closed would the material breath or is condensation likely to build up inside in winter. not citisizing just want to get a better picture of the finished product.

[Mirius]

I'm interested in this, though since I'm a hammock virgin I'll need to wait until at least next weekend when I can make a complete fool of myself attempting to put it up to know how well it'll suit me.

[litefoot]

Sounds interesting Ian,I look forward to seeing how this developes.Good luck with it and thanks for the work you put in for the rest of us.
Litefoot

[wanderinstar]

Alan,
If the zip is left closed, you will get condensation inside. The idea of it opening from the middle is to accommodate different heights and sleeping positions.I have seen one of these zips on a certain hammock. The idea is to have a hole above your face, not have your face stuck out. You would get cold choppers that way.

[Aragorn]

right, got a better idea of what you mean now ian, will keep a close eye on this, could be just the ticket to reducing my kit weight.

[andy_e]

So, will it be a little bit like an extra-wide underblanket that you can zip the sides together to make a cocoon in colder weather?

[Dougster]

So, will it be a little bit like an extra-wide underblanket that you can zip the sides together to make a cocoon in colder weather?

Oooh - succinct. Nicely put.

[wanderinstar]

Basically, yes. But with the added bonus of Reflectatherm for that bit extra.

[Aliwren]

Thanks for explaining sounds a great idea!

[widu13]

I'm getting it now. I take it those hammocks with mossie nets would either have to be reversed or the net slept on?

[wanderinstar]

Yes, thats right I'm afraid. Seperate mozzie net ala Magikelly would be needed.

[SimonM]

Sounds like a good idea Ian. Sadly I won't be able to use it with my Hennesey.....

So if anybody has an underblanket & quilt combo and wants to sell it now that there is an alternative ...... drop me a PM!

Simon

[andy_e]

I'm getting it now. I take it those hammocks with mossie nets would either have to be reversed or the net slept on?

The good thing is when it's cold enough that you'd need to use it, you don't need a mossie net.

Will be very interested in seeing the end design.

[Bozle]

Interested in this- sounds like it could be rather useful, is it similar to either of these?

http://www.speerhammocks.com/Products/PeaPod.htm

http://www.jacksrbetter.com/index_fi...7;20Quilts.htm

[Humpback]

Wanderingstar
Interested but sadly my Henessy precludes!
Good luck with the project.
Alan



PS the built in ridge line is the problem really, not the mosquito net, so I can't "reverse" it

[littlebiglane]

might be interested. price depending.

thanks

LBL

[wentworth]

Some people on hammockforums.net have snipped their Hennessy ridgeline and rejoined it with a carabiner. This allows them to unclip the ridge and flip the netting to the underside of the hammock.
I personally feel this is a waste, as a top loading hammock can be made within half an hour with no sewing.
However, this would allow a sleeping bag to surround a hennessy.

[Matt Weir]

The good thing is when it's cold enough that you'd need to use it, you don't need a mossie net.

I'm not so sure about that Andy especially about this time when it's warm enough in the morning and evening for the buggers to come out but there's still that chill factor in the wee hours to fully warrant an underblanket.

Saying that I have the GB hammock and GB net and together with my homemade underblanket I tend to use them these days rather than my DD so it's all a bit of a moot point for me but I'm interested to keep abreast of hammocking developments

[andy_e]

I'm not so sure about that Andy especially about this time when it's warm enough in the morning and evening for the buggers to come out but there's still that chill factor in the wee hours to fully warrant an underblanket.

Saying that I have the GB hammock and GB net and together with my homemade underblanket I tend to use them these days rather than my DD so it's all a bit of a moot point for me but I'm interested to keep abreast of hammocking developments

You're right Matt, but I meant cold enough to want to totally cocoon yourself - admittedly most mornings for me - even up here it's fine now with the regular underblanket and quilt - and the midgies have only started rising.

[wanderinstar]

Well, sadly there does not seem to be enough interest at the moment. So will put this on the back burner till later on in the year. May resurrect it in the Autumn. To those people who have shown an interest, thank you.

[wentworth]

This may sound odd, but perhaps enough interest hasn't been shown because the thread title doesn't tell people what the group buy is? Maybe its easily past over? Just a thought. I for one am looking forward to seeing the finished result.

[wanderinstar]

Maybe your right Aris. But at the moment I have other more important issues to deal with. I still have to pay out the initial cost of bag, for Snugpak to make sample. So when I resurrect this project I will bear that in mind.

[Jacko]

Ian,
Prob' too late now, as I had not seen, but I would be interested in this project. Please do take it up later in the year, as saw something similar in the states last year. That one was a bit bulky though, if this uses reflectatherm it should be alot smaller packed.
Cheers,
Mark.

[firebreather]

Right thats it I am going to have to start paying more attention to stuff again. I totally missed this thread until now. I have been thinking about an idea like this for a while. So would be very interested depending on price and stuff.

How is the sample coming on ?

Greg

[StJon]

popped my cherry last weekend swinging from two trees so now I'm interested in a cocoon. Price dependent of course...
jon