How to Make a Fire Fork!

[John Fenna]

Go on then Hireath - I dare you!

[andy_e]

Well a quick google shows someone's already thought of it. now all we need is a shrunk down version and an RM endorsement before everyone has one
http://thewavebox.com/

Cool, at just under 30L it'll fit in my rucksack no problems

[bushscout1]

...Great idea, and great pictures too! Dare i say,

(And if people used half the amount of energy required to make negative posts, on overlooking the parts they wanted to make negative comments about, things`d be a whole lot better in this world.)

Aarya,

First off, welcome to the forums, hopefully as you say you're a lurker, you'll not be thinking that all threads are this demoralising ?!*

Secondly, maybe as a result of this being your first post and are breathing 'fresh air', thank you for rising above the tittle-tattle that has overshadowed this post. Your closing words should be an inspiration to some of those who have posted above.

(I'm all for free speech, but unhelpful negative remarks are just pointless, nevermind not knowing when to pipe down as you've made your point. This comment is not aimed at every negative comment, many are properly made / inquisitive / useful, its just those that seem to be posting for 'sport'.)

As far as the forum being all about kit, perhaps you've overlooked the category you're reading / should find another site if this one is no longer to your liking. From the number of useful replies & views this thread has got I'd say it has been of interest to many.

I hope that Cobweb & Dr O aren't completely put off posting in future.

Rant over.

[Tony]

just read this, good tutorial, thanks for putting it up and keep them coming

For those that actually got heated about it, err...why? It's an appropriate subject in the appropriate forum, if you don't like things that people make then don't come and look in this forum, stick to the ones that will not upset your puritan views on what you believe bushcraft is. As for the site going down the pan for allowing appropriate posts/threads in the appropriate places...I'm just confused...

I'm looking forward to seeing some more articles

[Bernie Garland]

just read this, good tutorial, thanks for putting it up and keep them coming

For those that actually got heated about it, err...why? It's an appropriate subject in the appropriate forum, if you don't like things that people make then don't come and look in this forum, stick to the ones that will not upset your puritan views on what you believe bushcraft is. As for the site going down the pan for allowing appropriate posts/threads in the appropriate places...I'm just confused...

I'm looking forward to seeing some more articles

Very well said Tony.

bernie

[decorum]

Excellent tutorial with great pics

[JonnyP]

This has got to be the best thread I have read in a long time.....
I do not have a telly, but this thread is my Eastenders... It has it all ....
Toddy...Where you said "Enough" I nearly fell off my armchair laughing....
Excellent tutorial BTW....

[Toddy]

My only excuse is that it was a looooong night and three times I fankled 3 x 25 metres of linen thread trying to make a fishing line while reading the forum threads last night

I don't watch tv but for maybe 5 or 10 minutes a week What you get on this forum is me as is, not as an imitation of a character from a soap opera.

Actually it's pretty good on BcUK; there are less than a handful of people, out of thousands of members on the forum, that I don't think I could be bothered to either work or walk or talk, with

Two foot of bendy wire....

cheers,
Toddy

[Toddy]

Sorry folks, I've used so many smilies in that last post it looks like confetti

atb,
M

[andy_e]

Sorry folks, I've used so many smilies in that last post it looks like confetti

atb,
M

Another couple of smilies and you'll be rivalling abushcrafter - awww he's young and enthusiastic - and there's nowt wrong with that

[suburban bushwacker]

Great thread! i love you guys you're so funny, and some of you intentionally so!!

Seriously if this were a beachcraft forum, there are usually bits of wire all over the beach and so making a toaster from one of them (and taking it home) would be doing your bit for the environment.
Play on.

[Mungo]

Uhmmm sorry if I've stepped into the middle of an argument...

As I mentioned previously, love the tutorial - photos are technically great too - good job! Anyway, the fireforks I saw on leevalley.com are at http://www.leevalley.com/garden/page...=2,40725,45454 (hope you all can see them)... they're the ones I got for Christmas. As someone previously said on this posting, they keep the food from rotating and slipping down the stick - quite useful and of course small and won't weigh down your kit. Convenient, and doesn't need any upkeep. Hope to see more tutorials like yours on this site!

Good idea for those of us who camp out!

Cheers,

Mungo

[fishy1]

My daughter ate half a tub of zinc oxide cream when she was six months old without any ill effects. I rang the hospital and they said it was very common for babies to eat this particular brand of cream and they had never known anyone to have ill effects except diarrhea.

Personally I prescribe to a deliberate self poisoning policy, as i find the best way discovering if something is poisonous for your good self to try it out. Everything is toxic it is just a matter of degree, if a substance is ingested to extent that mild poisoning is produced you know the effect level. BUT THEN ME AND DR ONION ARE IDOITS

Zinc oxide is non toxic, zinc oxide fumes are extremely harmful. Not to mention the fact zinc oxide cream is not pure zinc oxide.

I have to say self poisoning is stupid. Plenty of things will kill you in very small quantities.

[BOD]

Oh dear,

What started out as a fine thread, which has inspired me to try out Cobwebs's innovation, has gone down hill fast.

Is there something in the air or water that is bringing on a fog of negativity in the UK generally not only in this thread?

Lets be kind and take the statements expressed in the best possible way.

Those who point out that there is zinc oxide on some wire are merely alerting you to a possible risk so you can make up your own mind. They are not the health police nor did it seem that they were out to denigrate the intelligence of others.

Similarly those who refer to "self poisoning" are simply pointing out that this is the basis of all dietary and medical discovery. Where would we be if our ancestor shamans, herbalists and "witches" did not self experiment with unknown plants and substances? The unknown becomes food (whether staple or spice) or medicine and enlarges our dietary range and betters our health

The shaman's self experiment is arguably morally superior to the modern scientist who poisons others during drug trials. It may even be methodologically sounder.

If I say something like "what would a BBQ be like without carcinogens" it should not be taken as a reckless abuse of my health or a wish to get cancer.

My daughter and I went for a bush walk and cook up this morning. Getting out is good for ones mental health. I urge members to get out as much as possible.

Everything seems better when you gaze into a fire, sit by a brook or look at the hills

[Nagual]

I have to say I like the idea of getting a bit of wire and bending it so it holds a stick in place while I cremate some food! In all likely hood I'm not likely to do it, but I don't care, as I like seeing other people play with ideas and make things.

There are many things that may or may not hurt / kill / tickle us and I've found a fair few of them in the damnedest places, up trees, 30 meters under water, in deep dark dank pits, and have survived all, with the merest of scratches! However I'd still rather know what the nasties were, just in case. Hmmm, if you burnt something on the wire and turned it to charcoal ( the food not the wire.. ) .. would that absorb any nasties?.. probably not, and not a serious question. No really it wasn't. Don't answer, please.

From playing with ideas comes development of new ideas. I love seeing picture tutorials of just about anything, no matter how simple or complex. So well done for sharing this. More I say! More!

Cheers, Nag.

[fishy1]

Actually, now I think about it you could remove the zinc easily with vinegar or other acids.

[spamel]

A bin that we used for burning sensitive information in Iraq was zinc coated, and it melted off when we lit a large paper fire in in. Do be careful and don't assume that nothing can happen, although I doubt you would come to harm. Get some stainless kebab skewers to bend into shape, they are long and will do the job just as well.

[Cobweb]

*Pokes head from under blanket*

Finished fighting yet? :P lol

That's a great idea spamel! The pointy end would be perfect and it would be easy to sharpen up the other one

[Lithril]

Just read this thread with disbelief quite honestly.

Firstly, nice article Cobweb, I like things like this, I wouldn't take it light weight camping, and yes you could carve them but what the hell I've got a set of fold up titanium chopsticks.... IMay get the DoE kids making some of these.

Don't stop posting Dr O, if the others don't want the info they don't have to read it, yes there is an risk in everything but it doesn't cost anything to be better informed, whether or not you act on it is personal choice, but don't give up because of others moaning.

There are some really negative comments on here that are in no way constructive, lets try and make this positive please, I'm off work for a fortnight now and not being able to move far I really don't want to sit here and read petty disagreements.

[Wallenstein]

So any solid conclusions on the best wire to use?

Would a wire coathanger do the job, or does it need to be a bit stiffer?

Would be great to see pics of any other efforts!

[Bernie Garland]

So any solid conclusions on the best wire to use?

Would a wire coathanger do the job, or does it need to be a bit stiffer?

Would be great to see pics of any other efforts!

Stainless is best,but i'd have no probs using a coat hanger.

Bernie

[andy_e]

The good news for me is that most things I cook over a fire end up heavily carbonised anyway, hopefully that will help counteract any poisoning I may subject myself to

I'm pretty sure a wire coat hanger would work really well.

[Bernie Garland]

The good news for me is that most things I cook over a fire end up heavily carbonised anyway, hopefully that will help counteract any poisoning I may subject myself to

I'm pretty sure a wire coat hanger would work really well.

Totally agree Andy

Bernie

[lostplanet]

What you need:
18" of relatively stiff steel wire (you can snarf this from a broken fence.)
Wire Cutters
Strong Pliers (Square or round nose, it doesn't matter)
Something Cylindrical.

'Snarf' is the funiest word i've heard this year Great thread, Good Job.

[firebreather]

Great tutorial. I love mine (a gift following this thread cheers mate ) and will be making others.

Greg

[Aaron]

just read this, good tutorial, thanks for putting it up and keep them coming

For those that actually got heated about it, err...why? It's an appropriate subject in the appropriate forum, if you don't like things that people make then don't come and look in this forum, stick to the ones that will not upset your puritan views on what you believe bushcraft is. As for the site going down the pan for allowing appropriate posts/threads in the appropriate places...I'm just confused...

Hey 'Tony', if that is in fact your real name -which I doubt- you leave my mate Jason alone,,

[Toddy]

Aaron, you are well out of line regardless of whether this was an attempt at humour, sarcasm or irritation.

"Hey 'Tony', if that is in fact your real name -which I doubt- you leave my mate Jason alone,, "

Two Mods have stated quite clearly that the thread is fine, in the right place, and there is no reason for any dispute.
Tony not only runs the BcUK website, he allows folks like yourselves to have a voice on it.

There are very few rules, might I suggest you familiarise yourself with them *before* you post again in this manner.
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45

Meanwhile you have been carded.

Toddy

[Tony]

Hey 'Tony', if that is in fact your real name -which I doubt- you leave my mate Jason alone,,

Ah, heck you caught me Do you want to tell everyone that's known me for 30 odd years that Tony just isn't my name? I'm not sure how many would believe you but i'm sure that you've based your assumption on something?

As for your mate Jason, heck, I think he's ok and i've enjoyed spending time with him in the past, ask him about the nice big salmon of mine that he learned to ponass with. (Oh, by the way, he calls me 'Tony' as well ) What your post does is prolong an issue that was dead and buried, we don't drag things out, a point was made and that was the end of it..not any more it seems because you wanted to make a point, do the tit for tat thing, which is fine, you obviously thought about it and posted because it was important to you.

For clarification though - I think this thread is fine and it's in the right place for the content posted, just like I think that puritan views (of which I admit to a few) are also appropriate when in the right place, or when discussing specific subjects where opinion is part of the conversation, now and then they don't combine well though and that's when we point out that it's not appropriate.

Hope that explains things

[Aaron]

I assure you Toddy and Tony it wasnt an attempt at anything or trying to drag anything out, I am just sticking up for a good mate of mine. Feel free to do what you feel you must (and have done). And as regards reading the forum rules, I'm afraid that I feel that it would lead to me spending two precious minutes of my life that I wouldnt get back.

And Tony - sorry about the identity mixup but I was told that you were in fact Lord Lukan, on the run these past years. Obviously the drunken man in the bus station this morning was mistaken!


Cheers, Aaron

[Bernie Garland]

Ah, heck you caught me Do you want to tell everyone that's known me for 30 odd years that Tony just isn't my name? I'm not sure how many would believe you but i'm sure that you've based your assumption on something?

As for your mate Jason, heck, I think he's ok and i've enjoyed spending time with him in the past, ask him about the nice big salmon of mine that he learned to ponass with. (Oh, by the way, he calls me 'Tony' as well ) What your post does is prolong an issue that was dead and buried, we don't drag things out, a point was made and that was the end of it..not any more it seems because you wanted to make a point, do the tit for tat thing, which is fine, you obviously thought about it and posted because it was important to you.

For clarification though - I think this thread is fine and it's in the right place for the content posted, just like I think that puritan views (of which I admit to a few) are also appropriate when in the right place, or when discussing specific subjects where opinion is part of the conversation, now and then they don't combine well though and that's when we point out that it's not appropriate.

Hope that explains things

Very well said Tony and Toddy,and my apologies for getting a bit irate in thread,i most probably will again sometime get irate, but am in total agreement with the way this forum is moderated.

Bernie