web buliding

**Toddy** · 22-12-2007, 18:50

I have a better idea than cluttering up the forum with multiple polls and web advice threads and lots of re-directs; I've combined the two threads about your new website so people can see them both at once.

Also, since web building isn't really a 'bushcraft' resource I'm going to move the combined thread into Other Chatter.

Best of luck with the new website :-)

cheers,
Toddy

**Wayland** · 23-12-2007, 22:51

You've asked for opinions and I thought I'd take a look at your site to see what I thought.

I'm afraid I didn't do much looking because the colour scheme and flashing animations were so garish the whole thing would have just given me a head ache.

I closed the site less than twenty seconds after I opened it.

Bear in mind that I deliberately went to your site with the intention of looking at it and that was my reaction.

Think what someone searching around on the net will do. Do you think they will stay and find out what you have on your site or will they move on too?

There needs to be something that will grab the attention of your viewer in the first few seconds and hold it or they are gone.

It is a very big mistake to believe that flashing lights and scrolling text will do that. Usually they have exactly the opposite effect.

It speaks to me of the sort of site that is going to have pop up ads that I can't get rid of and other such gadgets from the bad old days of internet geekdom.

When I see such sites I usually log out instantly just in case. Very rarely do I find anything worth reading on them so why take the chance?

That is not going to get your message, whatever it is, out there.

Content is King these days on the internet. Plain inter sting text and pictures will create far more traffic than bells and whistles.

**abushcrafter** · 26-12-2007, 17:14

now updated

. now working on conteant

!!!!!! i will have a min of 1 thing by feb

please post died links

**Wayland** · 28-12-2007, 21:09

Much better I'll check again when I've got more time.

Well done

**SimonM** · 28-12-2007, 21:52

In this (sad) day & age I would consider taking some of your personal info off the site , eg:-

Real name
Your date of birth
Where you live

Sorry, but as a parent I would not want people that I did not know, knowing these details about my kids as it leaves the door open to all sorts of approaches!

But big improvement to date - well done!

Simon

**Mirius** · 28-12-2007, 22:02

That's a big improvement, well done!

**abushcrafter** · 02-01-2008, 10:39

Originally Posted by SimonM

In this (sad) day & age I would consider taking some of your personal info off the site , eg:-

Real name
Your date of birth
Where you live

Sorry, but as a parent I would not want people that I did not know, knowing these details about my kids as it leaves the door open to all sorts of approaches!

But big improvement to date - well done!

Simon

whats your excuse

Date of Birth:
May 16, 1970 Age:
37 Location:
Lancashire

from http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/member.php?u=6641

and dad dose know
****************************** ****************************** ****************************** ***

so what do you spouse

**SimonM** · 02-01-2008, 11:09

Originally Posted by abushcrafter

whats your excuse

Sorry you took it the wrong way - but as you pointed out I'm 37, not 13 (Happy birthday by the way!), and not at risk from some of the more undesirable members of society. As such I do not need an excuse!

Believe me these people do not need much to make an initial contact with young people .... they know your name, which Scout Troop you attend and roughly where you live. They also know what you, your sister, dog and parents look like ... need I say more?

**Toddy** · 02-01-2008, 11:16

I agree, and since you are only just 13, (happy birthday btw) and I am technically a responsible adult on this forum, if you don't tidy those details away shortly, I'm going to remove your links.

I'm all for encouraging your development as a bushcrafter and web-builder but you have far too much personal detail exposed.

Please let you mum or dad see this thread and ask just how much detail they are happy for millions of people to view.

Toddy

**abushcrafter** · 02-01-2008, 11:31

Originally Posted by Toddy

I agree, and since you are only just 13, (happy birthday btw) and I am technically a responsible adult on this forum, if you don't tidy those details away shortly, I'm going to remove your links.

I'm all for encouraging your development as a bushcrafter and web-builder but you have far too much personal detail exposed.

Please let you mum or dad see this thread and ask just how much detail they are happy for millions of people to view.

Toddy

he left it to me on what to do and i hadent decided yet, what to do

**Toddy** · 02-01-2008, 11:51

Then may I suggest you remove the fine details of yourself and where you live. They aren't necessary and are only leaving you open to potential trouble, and the fact that they are so prominant concerns the rest of us.

It won't detract from you site, it will make things look a bit more professional and it will certainly leave things a bit more secure.

cheers,
Toddy

**Toddy** · 02-01-2008, 12:37

I've just looked at your site again, and it really is starting to pull together more clearly. It's a lot more viewer friendly. It'll be interesting to see it develop.

cheers,
Toddy

**abushcrafter** · 02-01-2008, 14:15

my long post is coming

**abushcrafter** · 02-01-2008, 15:33

I made a big change in the gallery some time ago

. After dad said that I might have problems when I have a bank account. But I was not shore what I could get away with my details? So me being me I left it and got distracted / forgot (very bad short term memory) also sins mum is not very good with tech (but now thinking about it she properly could have helped

and she said not to but can’t remember

) and dad is very busy doing jobs, what time I have with him I use with what has my highest priority, which in this case was not that. So I ended up hoping you lot could pinpoint what I should do with what I should do.

By the way you do not need to say or do “if you don't tidy those details away shortly, I'm going to remove your links.” Because I always behave and I try and do what is the best!!!!! This also gets me veryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyy stressed

and do stupid things!!! So don’t do it please !!!!!

“What’s your excuse” is me in a rush. What I should have said is “why can’t I have the same sort of bits on the net like you” Also “he left it to me on what to do and I hadn’t decided yet, what to do” is another quick post. Which this post is the fall/right one.

Ps I don’t meet people off the net

**Mirius** · 02-01-2008, 15:56

Well don't be too sorry, you did what you thought was right. Now, personally I don't see see the harm in having your details on your site if you want them. I think that there is a very large difference between potential harm and the extremely over hyped risk of it. However, this site has to be seen to be taking action to remove the risk hence the comment by Toddy above. I don't think it was a slap over the knuckles for you, just something that BCUK would have to do.

**decorum** · 02-01-2008, 17:26

Hi abushcrafter,

You've made quite a few improvements to your site; it's a lot easier on the eye .

I've got to echo the concerns of others above me - you're providing way too much personal info .

Now the good news . This forum is a community which tries to give a helping hand and the concern and comments about the amount of personal info you've provided is us showing concern for your health and well being.

P.M. sent

And finally - Happy Birthday

**Tadpole** · 02-01-2008, 17:31

Originally Posted by Mirius

Well don't be too sorry, you did what you thought was right. Now, personally I don't see see the harm in having your details on your site if you want them. I think that there is a very large difference between potential harm and the extremely over hyped risk of it. .

it is very easy, given the details on his site, to get a location (down to a road name, XXXXX Hill) and that is way way to much to include on a childs website. safety First always.

**Mirius** · 02-01-2008, 18:02

Originally Posted by Tadpole

it is very easy, given the details on his site, to get a location (down to a road name, ****** Hill) and that is way way to much to include on a childs website. safety First always.

I won't argue about what is possible or what is safe, because they are both emotive discussions which in themselves are not relevant to this thread, nor indeed BCUK. It happens that I strongly disagree with "safety First always", but I'm not going to argue about it here.

**abushcrafter** · 02-01-2008, 18:17

I am veryyyyyyyyyyy confused I fort I deleted that stuff where is it ?????
Pm me please

**Toddy** · 02-01-2008, 18:48

You don't listen very well, do you?
We've been telling you since day1 that you have left yourself, and potentially your family, too open.
The internet is active, a few clues and anyone can be traced.

You have had more than enough time to deal with things in a mature fashion, yet you aren't attending to this.

I am a Mod on this site, if an adult ignored my request they would be put on a suspension, why ought you be given leeway they aren't?
Responding to my request in the way you have is a very straightforward way to get your membership suspended.

That's not a threat, that is reality.

Now, think before you answer me back,
Please pay heed to the requests that have been made. They genuinely are made with your best interests at heart.

Toddy

**abushcrafter** · 02-01-2008, 19:23

Sorry I didn't know things like the slide show linked to picassa.The google picassa map i should have dealt whith a long time ago, oops!!!

I have removed link to scout site. I will talk to the scout leader about privacy.

If there is any thing i have missed anywhere please tell me by pm or email.

ps toddy I want to change my email & password but the button does not work can you help me . pm???

My Dad has said he will help me more with my posts (spelling+privacy) in future.

**abushcrafter** · 04-01-2008, 15:16

I think the web site design is finished

I am now as you know doing content so if you have ideas

for content or improvements on my content I would love to hear them

**Wayland** · 09-01-2008, 10:34

I still think the colour scheme is a bit hard on the eyes but that's your choice.

The choice of font on the front page is difficult to read. It's better further into the site but it may discourage people from exploring further.

Take a look here at some of the fine points I have addressed on my websites and it might give you some ideas.

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20565

**abushcrafter** · 10-01-2008, 10:16

what where you thinking about

**Wayland** · 10-01-2008, 10:56

I thought the sites and the sort of points people were making in the thread might give you some ideas.

We can't give you inspiration, you have to find it yourself.

**abushcrafter** · 10-01-2008, 11:20

Originally Posted by abushcrafter

what where you thinking about

i ment with colour exactly

**abushcrafter** · 11-01-2008, 20:05

http://www.fusionbot.com/

this is great!

to the free option. my site now has search

**abushcrafter** · 24-01-2008, 08:29

how do you work out the html for one of my flash bits so you lovely

people can put it on your site with out downloading it

**abushcrafter** · 23-02-2008, 19:03

for all you frame haters I will get rid of the frame and put this there instead.

http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex1/davidmenu.htm

or http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex1/index.html

or post any thing better than that please!

also I am still making some big/small changes still to the site

Originally Posted by abushcrafter

how do you work out the html for one of my flash bits so you lovely

people can put it on your site with out downloading it

done it

**abushcrafter** · 06-03-2008, 18:57

can you make sens of this thing please

http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamici...wncontrol.htm#

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