Where to go...

[Squidders]

Somehow I think the only not sold site available is a little out of our budgets:

Coldborough Park - Nr Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire - 73.9 ha. - £310,000 - Lot 1: 26.9 ha., £105,000, Lot 2: 47 ha, £205,000

What we need is a huge part of dartmoor that's completely wild. You apply for a permit from the park authority, they check liability insurance and make you take a test on basic safety, consideration to the environment and others and send you on your way. By issuing a fairly small number of permits on a monthly first come first served basis it makes it fair.

Now, who do we kidnap to get something like this???

[Tedders]

Hi folks

I stumbled upon your forum today and so far it has made good reading.

I've been practiving bushcraft for a few years now and love it.

The reason I have joined this thread is I have some land that I use to practice on - unfortunetly in France! It is only a few acres but is surrounded by other private woodland that I have never seen anyone on. So feels bigger. maybe we could come to some arrangement where people pay a fee to stay there alone for a week, or whatever. It doesn't have showers and toilets as requested by an earlier poster, but surely that is part of bushcraft???

I have also looked at the Woodlands for sale websites. I have recently been made redundent and I was thinking how I could buy a chunk of woodland with the money that I could obviously use myself, but also get some form of income from it. Would any of you guys be interested in paying for an official wild camp with hunting rights?

[TheViking]

You can create a thread, Tedders in the introductions and welcomes.

[Squidders]

You can create a thread, Tedders in the introductions and welcomes.

I actually think this comes under the where to go topic nicely...

I would be interested if the land were in the UK... I travel to france regularly to go to Fontainebleau. but i'd be interested in paying a reasonable fee to use land... not too bothered about the hunting though.

Welcome by the way Tedders! )

[TheViking]

I actually think this comes under the where to go topic nicely...

Oh yes, but I meant that he could introduce himself in the introductions forum... :wink: :-)

[bushwacker bob]

Hello and welcome Tedders,
France sounds fine to me for the odd jaunt. I suspect you'd be fairly well booked for that one :wave:

[Rhoda]

To find out who owns land I tend to pop into the nearest farmhouse. Farmers generally know a lot about the local landowners and how to get hold of them!

I'm lucky to be in the job I am as I get to use the site that we use for courses if I want to. I also regularly go to a small woodland which I happen to know that the owner lives abroad and is not bothered what goes on there. Its all about information gathering - ask some questions and I'm sure you'll find somewhere.

I also volunteer for the national trust and spend 2 days a week helping to manage some woodland which has given me a foot in the door resulting in permission to camp on the campsite that the scouts etc use there. Volunteering to help manage the woods is a great way to win the landowner over!

[Jack]

The quickest way to find out who owns the land, is to start up a chainsaw................you will find out within 3 minutes, guaranteed. It has always worked for me!

[Kath]

The quickest way to find out who owns the land, is to start up a chainsaw................you will find out within 3 minutes, guaranteed. It has always worked for me!

): :rolmao: ):

[Lithril]

Roflmao

[Squidders]

The quickest way to find out who owns the land, is to start up a chainsaw................you will find out within 3 minutes, guaranteed. It has always worked for me!

How positive are your negotiations post chainsaw revving?
:rolmao: :rolmao: :rolmao: :rolmao: :rolmao:

[Mauro]

just do it!!

-) if you are found in the evening, you are simply asked to move on
-) if you are found in the morning, you are moving on anyway. not much to say!
-) if you find somebody a bit pedantic, what can happen? you may be fined! how much? 50 quid! I have been in worst hotels for those money!

However, leave the place clean etc etc

enjoy :wave:

[Beer Monster]

Has anybody tried the MOD estates? :?:

I know that on most MOD training areas camping/fires aren't allowed (although on some there are designated bivi areas for the soldiers) but I've had a quick scan of the website and from the look of it there seems to be the possibility that when the areas aren't being used for miliary purposes "many other activities can take place" they might make exceptions i.e. maybe a small group/individuals go to a set grid reference on a set date???

I've done army survival courses on MOD land in Dorset with open fires etc and during training on the Sandhurst area the Gurkhas regularly spark up fires at night! ....... rules can be bent or "adjusted" ...... the question is will they do it for civilians?!?

Info at the bottom of this page:- http://www.defence-estates.mod.uk/access/access.htm

Here is a list of training areas and ranges with the wardens telephone number:- http://www.defence-estates.mod.uk/access/contacts.htm

I'm sure that if you contact the wardens, especially the ones at the smaller training areas that don't get used as often, they maybe able to help (although from past experience you may get the occasional grumpy old man!). Worth a go anyway ........ if you don't ask you don't get!

Good luck. :biggthump

[gillmacca]

About the only place i can think of you being able to have a fire, is in snowdonia (possible? in the remote parts) and up in the highlands

[philaw]

Hi all, I'm new to the site (this is my first post) and to bushcraft (in that I haven't done any yet). I know it's a hell of a long shot, but have any of you done any, heard of any, or read of any bushcraft in China? I'm moving there in february, and promised myself after my first trip there that I'd get out deeper into the countryside and see some serious wilderness. I've got locations in mind, like beside the great wall, the forests of Sichuan and a neighbouring province that's full of ethnic minorities in small villages, where visitors are liable to get invited in as guests. I know that most of what western bushcrafters learn for pure satisfaction still survives over there for subsistence, but only in outlying areas where they won't even speak mandarin, let alone English, and communication could be glacially slow. The moral of the story IS, if you know anything, even the title of a good, relevant book, please share. Once I'm over there I should have plenty of succulent information to give back.

Here are a couple of pictures of the kind of place I'm talking about: http://www.paulnoll.com/China/Excurs...ai-houses.html

Phil

[tomtom]

About the only place i can think of you being able to have a fire, is in snowdonia (possible? in the remote parts) and up in the highlands

this is one which i regularly over looked.. but below the high tide mark you can light a fire.. as you are technically sitting on the bottom of the sea no one can tell you other wise

[tomtom]

course you dont really want to hukker down there as the tide has a nasty habit of coming in :rolmao:

[bushwacker bob]

Hi all, I'm new to the site (this is my first post) and to bushcraft (in that I haven't done any yet). I know it's a hell of a long shot, but have any of you done any, heard of any, or read of any bushcraft in China? I'm moving there in february, and promised myself after my first trip there that I'd get out deeper into the countryside and see some serious wilderness. I've got locations in mind, like beside the great wall, the forests of Sichuan and a neighbouring province that's full of ethnic minorities in small villages, where visitors are liable to get invited in as guests. I know that most of what western bushcrafters learn for pure satisfaction still survives over there for subsistence, but only in outlying areas where they won't even speak mandarin, let alone English, and communication could be glacially slow. The moral of the story IS, if you know anything, even the title of a good, relevant book, please share. Once I'm over there I should have plenty of succulent information to give back.

Here are a couple of pictures of the kind of place I'm talking about: http://www.paulnoll.com/China/Excurs...ai-houses.html

Phil

If you have access to sky TV and available to view at about 12.30 am there is a program on called 'about China' and they often do rural reports from the provinces.Unfortunately unless the places are named after food like, Peking Duck, I can't remember them.The channel is about sky 560. Sorry to be so vague, but it gives you a starting point!

[philaw]

If you have access to sky TV and available to view at about 12.30 am there is a program on called 'about China' and they often do rural reports from the provinces.Unfortunately unless the places are named after food like, Peking Duck, I can't remember them.The channel is about sky 560. Sorry to be so vague, but it gives you a starting point!

Thanks Bob, I've watched that program a few times. They tend to go to (nice) touristy places, many of which I've been to before, but they've also given me a couple of good ideas. My wife (who's Chinese) is keen to go out into Sichuan with me, and says that we should be able to see a wild panda! Combine that with treks through forests and day trips to temples and you have a recipe for an unforgetable trip.

[maddave]

If youve got a spare £30,000 odd, you could buy yourself a woodland !!

... I`ll get me coat :sulk:

www.woodlands.co.uk (some woodland for £10k)

[Wink]

Hey everyone, check out "Land Access in Scotland" thread and see what you think!

[philaw]

£10,000 for a bit of woodland. As a kind of group timeshare, split between a load of bushcraftuk members it would be a good place for meets, and would cost little more than a goretex jacket and an alan wood knife for each person. Just a suggestion for the rest of you, if you haven't done it already, I'll be on my trip to China soon, and 5400 miles from scotland!

[bambodoggy]

Tomtom....if you're having fires on beaches it's often required and always polite to let the coast guard know before hand. I'm pretty sure I'm right in saying it's a by-law in the Isle of White and maybe other places too... They're always ok with you doing it below the high water mark and are often more than happy that you bothered to ask them first ):
Saves them wasting a callout if they don't know what's going on.

I have, to date, never been denied permission from a coast guard in any UK area that I've asked them.

[tomtom]

Tomtom....if you're having fires on beaches it's often required and always polite to let the coast guard know before hand.

i live in a fairly small community.. know all the coastguards around here.. and i will be when when i am around on a more perminant reason.. if i was to tell them they would probably say "why you tell in us :?: "..and i was told you are alowed to do farily well what you wish below the high tide line, with out having to tell anyone..??

[bambodoggy]

Hey if you know them all then I guess that's cool.... If you live in a place where you don't need to let them know then you're right they may think you mad for telling them... :-P

As I said they are by-laws but they are there to stop false call-outs etc...not to stop you doing what you want or enjoying yourself and I presume they change from place to place and some places won't have them so you can do what you like.

Everywhere is different and clearly we all know our own places but I'd hate for someone on here to (for example) get a grilling from the coast guard while on holiday on the Isle of White and only have "Tomtom said it was ok below the tide mark" as their defence!!! ):

Certainly didn't mean to speak out of turn mate! :wave:

I worked on an Outdoor Centre in Bude in Cornwall a few years back and the coast guards there could get a bit funny about them but I think that was more to do with people getting plastered and leaving litter all over the beaches.

[tomtom]

Certainly didn't mean to speak out of turn mate! :wave:

yu didnt.. i have to admit, i didnt know those by-laws, and was under a wong impression about what i was allowed to do, cheers :super: :biggthump

[bambodoggy]

No worries Matey ): there may not be any by-laws by you so you may be fine and as you say if you know them all then it ain't no thing! :super: